Colors calibrated with GretagMacbeth different on 2 computers

I have GretagMacbeth eye-one display. It was purchased 4 years ago and has been used monthly with my Dell Desktop Dimension 4700, 1905FP Dell Ultrasharp Digital Flat Panel Display. Recently I purchased a Dell Vostro Laptop with 15.4 Widescreen WXGA LCD anti-glare Display. I calibrated the display with GretagMacbeth eye one and corresponding software version 3.2A. Comparing the desktop and laptop displays, using the same angle with respect to the vertical and under the same lighting, I find that the desktop colors are by far more yellow than the laptop display. Shouldn't they be identical? Isn't that what eye-one is supposed to do? I always use the "easy" choice with the calibration since I am not knowledgeable enough for the custom choice. I posted this question to X-Rite which now handles GretagMacbeth questions. They suggested ways to make get both displays to look the same, but that really isn't what I wanted. I had been under the impression that using the eye-one would give me some sort of a "standard" sRGB colors that would produce on print the same colors I see on the screen and would produce the same colors on emailing to anyone's screen that was well calibrated. X-Rite's suggestions don't address that. If I haven't been getting a "standard", what am I getting with the eye-one?
Eva Deck

I don't have concrete data but I have seen at many places that Color Gamut supported by most the laptops have less colors than LCD monitors. This could be one of the reason you are seeing different colors on your Laptop and Monitor....

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    christopherlang wrote: This is broken on the w520. The external calibration does not work properly. You get an error about an 8-bit image missing when calibrating. Does anyone have a link to the v1.0 version that DOES WORK? Thanks Why is the support in Atlanta so awful that people keep telling me I need to REIMAGE my machine to repair this IDIOT problem!!!!!
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