Colors Inconsistent Despite Profiles

Running CS5 - I set up the color profiles in Bridge so that they would be consistent across all CS5 programs,
yet colors (even PMS) look quite different between Illustrator and Photoshop.
please advise

Illustrator and Photoshop have different CMYK breakdowns for PMS colors, so you have to manually change their values.
For example PMS 293 in Ilustrator CS4 is 100 57 0 2. Photoshop CS4 is 100 76 8 1.
Double Click on your color channel in photshop, then click on picker and change the value.

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