Colors & Photo quality unacceptably degenerates once published at .mac

Deciding if I'll move my website (published using the Earthlink Trellix site builder) over to .Mac using iWeb then cancel my Earthlink account and renew my about to expire .mac account.
I built one webpage using iWeb and published it to .mac - I used the same photos at each site. Viewing my original site at it's Earthlink domain, alongside the iWeb site at the .mac domain, the quality difference is surprising.
The iWeb/.mac site is totally unacceptable. The iWeb page displays the photos as totally washed out, no depth poor luminance. The colors are flat and muddy. This change happens in the publish process, once the photos are online.
What are the unwritten, unpublished parameters involved in getting iWeb or .mac to display images accurately?

Forgive me for sounding stupid, how do I verify this
frame, check inside iweb?
There are no stupid questions, right? Hehe. To check for any image effects, just look in iWeb. Open up the Inspector and click over to the Graphics tab... That's where those options for frames and shadows and reflections are set. Keep an eye on the checkboxes as you click on each image on your page. If it has any of the effects applied, you will see the checkbox appear "checked"...and then you can uncheck them.
AND I'm guessing it this will only give me partial
relief from the problem?
Well if you disable the effects, that will be good. To completely do away with the PNG conversion, you also need to make sure you image is being used at it's original size. To do this, again in the Inspector click over to the Metrics tab. Click on the "Use original size" button.
If you are processing all of your images yourself,
prior to loading them into iWeb, then well, iWeb
seems rather pointless. Errrgh.
It is an unfortunate situation, but I've been doing it long enough that I appreciate the control, I guess. The way I like to see it is that iWeb isn't a graphics program...it's a web publishing program. And it does it's best to make things look the way they are supposed to look. But some of its behavior is counterproductive. Thankfully the helpful people here have figured out ways to work around the deficiencies. I use a graphics program called "Downsize" (http://www.stuntsoftware.com/Downsize/) to process my images. It lets you set size, jpg compression and also frames and drop shadows and corners and watermarks.
ALSO - Is there a way to tell what images have been
converted to png besides deducing 'oh that looks like
ca-ca.'
When you pull up your pages in a web browser, just control-click on your images and select "Open image in new window or tab". This should display your image in it's own space and put the URL for the image in the address bar. Look at this URL...the last part is the image filename. You should see either .png or .jpg

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Hey,
I'm having some trouble publishing my photo gallery. I do not want to publish it as a web gallery from iPhoto then link to it with iWeb. What I want to do is to send a gallery from iPhoto into iWeb, and have it published as part of the website. When I send a gallery over to iWeb, it loads up great, and I have all the functionality that one would expect when doing this so by all indications, it will load up great on my .mac account. When I publish the website, it does say that it is publishing the photo gallery page, but the issue is that none of my galleries ever show up! I do not know what to do, I have tried completely deleting the photo gallery page and remaking it in case I did something wrong in the design somewhere, but it still does not load up. If I link in a web gallery, it does show up, but, again, that is not what I want to do. I am at a loss for what may be causing the error. Any help at all would be greatly appreciated.
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Publishing a iPhotoalbum to iWeb is the same as dragging the album from the media browser to iWeb.
When I send a gallery over to iWeb, it loads up great, and I have all the functionality that one would expect when doing this so by all indications, it will load up great on my .mac account.
When I publish the website, it does say that it is publishing the photo gallery page, but the issue is that none of my galleries ever show up!
What is it? Does it upload great to dotMac or doesn't it?
There's only one thing to do. Publish it. No need to upload. iWeb takes care of that.
It helps if you provide a URL to said page.

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i've created my site and it's been working great for a couple months. I just added new photos to several pages and they all look fine once published except one page! have tried moving them again in iweb, saving, then publishing again, but same thing - the photos are misplaced and covering text.
any ideas?? thanks!
site is http://www.luminousadventures.com
and then on the "Reiki and Bodywork" page is the problem.
(I haven't figured out yet how to have my url forwarding go to individual pages - that's another question!)

well, I solved my problem with a very low-tech solution: since every time my photos would appear about an inch higher than where I'd placed them while in iWeb (once published), i intentionally placed them an inch lower than I wanted (had to do a bit of adjusting since I was guessing where they'd show up), but it worked!
I still don't know why this is only happening on this one page, when all the others I did the same and they are fine.
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Photos misaligned on the page once published...

The photos are perfectly placed in the iWeb project. I publish. The photos have moved in their positioning ... I've never seen this happen before. I've remade the page several times. The photos on the other pages are exactly where they should be once published. What might be happening here?
http://lowryolafson.com/lowrysnewcd.com/borderland/the_band.html
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B.

This is quite difficult to demo in written text, but you can have image inside a text box and this text box is inside another text box as here:
the red border box is the image, the white border box is the inside text box and the black border box is the outside text box.
You have to copy the image (red border) into the small text box (white border) , then copy the small text box (white border and its image) and paste it inside the large text box (black border), then use text wrap around the smaller text box to have the final effect.
here is the end result: http://test.cyclosaurus.com/imgTT/Blank_2.html
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Poor image quality when publishing to .mac

This is very frustrating.
I buy a high resolution, high quality, royalty-free image. I resize it and crop it in my image editing program and save it as a maximum size .jpg.
I preview the image in Apple preview, and also drag the image into my web browser and it looks crisp and sharp.
I put the image on my iWeb page and publish to .mac. I check my site and the image looks horrible! It looks as though it got compressed again on the lowest setting.
Something very weird is happening to some people. I've read other discussion on this but they are all unresolved.
I'm a graphic designer and I've used dreamweaver and published to other servers. I know about image quality and optimization. I'm doing the same steps and procedures I've always done to optimize images and I've never had this problem except when I publish to .mac.
There is a very weird and serious issue going on and I hope someone can resolve this or has an answer.
Why would an image look crisp and sharp when I view it in my image editing program or in Apple preview, but when publish to .mac it gets re-compressed?
This may sound silly but do you think Apple is doing this randomly and automatically to users to save server space on .mac? Maybe they think people wont notice or care?
I am very upset and frustrated and I can't think of any other reason why this is happening.
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James,
Thank you very much for your help.
Here is what I did. I used Apple grab and took a screen shot of my iWeb page where the low res graphic was in position.
I used this as a "template" for cropping my original image in my image editing program to the exact size I needed.
I cropped my original image to the size of my "grab" template, deleted the template layer and saved the sharp image as a maximum file size .jpg and placed it into my iWeb page, with "use original size". It fit perfectly in my layout and looked sharp and crisp.
Now, I published my site and checked the image.
You were correct! The image came out crisp and sharp, no more quality loss.
To test your theory, I went back to iWeb and placed an iWeb mask around the same image and re-published it.
Sure enough! The same image that was once sharp had terrible image loss.
So I guess you're right, adding any effects to an image creates the image loss.
Well, this is a terrible shame because I really like some of the border effects. For example, in a photo gallery, you can use an effect such as a slight page curl with drop shadow that appears only for the thumbnail image but the when you click on the image full size, there is no page curl, just the pure image.
If I create this slight page curl effect and drop shadow in my image editing program, then both my thumbnail and full size image will have this effect.
Not only that, but in order to get the thumbnail image to lay over my background color, I would have to re-create the page curl effect and place it on a border of the same background color as my page layout. When someone clicks on my thumbnail they will now get the full size image with the page curl effect and a slight border of the page color.
Also creating this effect in my image editing program will make it more time consuming when I want to change layout styles, because when I create the page curl / drop shadow in my image editing program, I have to change the background color around each image to match the new background color I'm using for my page. Doing this for 20 images every time I want to change my design is allot of work.
If this is what I have to do, then I have no choice. But at least I would like my thumbnail to have the effect but NOT my full size image.
How do I do this so only my iWeb thumbnail image has this effect without iWeb forcing it to a PNG and loosing quality?
Thanks I appreciate you help!

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Every once in a while I see someone has posted a picture to a site where they can get help with a technique. In addition to the black and white question I previously posted, I have a color photo that I really like but it's not a high quality photo. It's a bit grainy and a little overexposed (the sunlight areas are blown out). How do I go about posting this for some expert help? This is all very new to me--I'm stretching beyond my scrapbooking skills! So please consider me a NEWBIE!
Barbara,
The color dodge and burning did help the Black and White photo. Thanks for the tip!
Debbie

Debbie,
I must admit that I cheated a little bit as far as this forum is concerned because I used Photoshop CS2. I'm not sure if the exposure adjustment was added in Photoshop Elements 4 or not. I haven't used Photoshop Elements since version 2. You could probably do about the same thing with another Levels adjustment layer and a Brightness/Contrast adjustment layer and just keep adjusting.
Another thing you can try on this image. Add a new empty layer and change the blending mode to Overlay. Then, use a paint brush, opacity of about 20 percent and choose black for the color and just paint on the empty layer where you want to darken the image. See if that helps you fix the problem with the face.

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Hello Jonathan!
Really nice photos! You, no doubt, have a much better eye than I do for details and such and it's no wonder that various compression artifacts would be more noticeable to you! Your photos look very acceptable to me.
The downside to the iPhoto-to-iWeb one-click automatic process is that you the photographer lose control over two things... the quality of resolution scaling and the quality of jpg (re)compression. Preprocessing of your images in something like Photoshop would definitely give you more control over these variables and would most likely allow you to see more acceptable images as posted online.
For your information, the max resolution for the Apple enhanced slideshows is 800x600. If you import a photo at any higher resolution, iWeb will take over again and resize and recompress your photo. So my recommendation to you would be to preprocess your images to make them look good at 800x600 and prevent iWeb from doing anything else to your images.
I hope this helps.

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Question for one of you brilliant guys using iMovie.
I have my movie for the veterans almost finished, but I have a question on maintaining photo quality when publishing or finalizing the movie.
I did a test and exported my movie to hard drive, but the photos have piilation in shaded areas like the photos were taken with a Dollar Store throw away camera. The original photos are good quality. I exported as 720 HD. How can I get the best quality if I want to put the movie on DVD?
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After inserting photos into i-movie and applying the Ken Burns effect the motion causes problems with the photo. Lines appear in areas and the whites of peoples eyes flicker as the motion is played.
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The pics are from an 8 M camera.
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Hi Jim,
If your viewing in iMovie you're not seeing the final result. The quality may improve once the project is exported.
Where large files are concerned with a high level of magnification I would think that iMovie uses a lot of resources trying to play the file on the fly.
Try exporting a Quicktime movie and seeing if the final result is any better.
Alternatively you could view the project in iDVD as this also used a rendered version of the project.
Hope this helps.
David.

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I have been a fairly silent member of this forum for a long time now, and have seen many supposed "solutions" with the known issue of how iDVD compresses, and ultimately destroys, image quality in DVDs. Granted, much of this compression is normal, considering a full-quality photo from iPhoto looks quite different after being smashed into the standard NTSC 720x480 format of a DVD and compressed to a variation of MPEG-2. That being said, this workaround has been well-tested, and will give you a very high quality slideshow that you can play on your TV. (take note that low quality TV will come into play in making the final product look bad, not the slideshow itself!)
NOTE: I only tested this in iPhoto 6/iDVD 6 on a 10.4.8 PowerMac G5. I would love to get confirmation it works on Intel Macs and other machines.
1. Select an album or group of pictures in iPhoto
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- Display image for: Obviously controls how long each image is displayed in the slideshow.
- Background: Can be an image or a color. This is what you will see as a border if the slideshow image is smaller than the window.
- Music: This is actually kinda complicated. What is the "currently selected music?" When you select an album and press the "Play" button to do a quick slideshow, there is a tab for Music. Whatever is selected here will be added to the slideshow when you export it.
4. Click 'Export', choose the filename and location, and then save it.
The resulting Quicktime file will be quite small, while still retaining the quality of your images. It uses a default crossdissolve transition that can't be changed. It keeps this quality when you drag the Quicktime file into iDVD and burn a disk/save a disk image.
Downsides...
- no ken burns
- can't use different transitions
- no other advanced slideshow options
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Let me know if this works for you guys. I've offered this advice to many people with good results, which is why I'm posting it here.
smi1ey =)

Smiley,
What you suggest isn't really a SOLUTION to bad iDVD photo quality, because you aren't creating a DVD that can be played back with a DVD player.
You are simply suggesting an alternate approach for distributing slideshows which requires the receiver have a computer. iPhoto/iMovie give you several options on prepairing slideshows/movie for various methods of distribution (CD, email, etc).
Some DVD players will also play jpg files from a CD or DVD and that avoids the mpg-2 compression quality loss, but a TV set image is still a TV set image.
which gives you over 90 pictures for a 10 MB slideshow
A lot of email programs aren't happy with a file that size, and of course, since you have created a QuickTime movie, your PC friends will also need to install QuickTime. The Flip4Mac Studio application will let you convert your QuickTime movie to a WMV movie for those with PCs.
I'm glad you found an approach that you are happy with.
If you open the file in Quicktime and got to Window > Show Movie Info, you will see that it lists each JPEG within the package, along with a transition component. It doesn't compress the images into a video file, but rather references the original images within the .Mov package
BTW, there are several different CODECs that can be used in the .MOV file container - Photo JPEG is just one.
QuickTime Pro offers more saving options than the standard version, so I recommend you invest in QuickTime Pro. You will be able to create your slideshow directly in QuickTime Pro.
F Shippey

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Here's a weird one... First, the setup.
My site is published from two different computers both using iWeb '08, using the same Domain.sites2 file that's passed from computer to computer using my idisk. The Domain file is always copied down to a local computer before new changes are made and published. Recently, I've noticed, that publishing from one of the computers (but not the other) results in overly intense colors, especially in the red tones. This I tested by accessing my site with Safari and opening one of the overly intense images. Leaving the browser page open, I then republish my site using a different computer, accessed the page again... and the images is normal! On screen you see the previously published image beside the newly published image, and the color deffirecenes are obvious, even though the same file was being published without modification.
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aking the same Domain file, and without replacing the

Unfortunately, the issue is not with which pages get published (that works fine), but with the amount of color in the images that are published.
Imagine this...
You have a JPEG photo of a sunset that is stored on an idisk. The photo is downloaded to Computer A, placed onto a page in iWeb, and published to the web. Here, the photo appears on the web site as one would expect (blue sky, subtle oranges and reds, some purples). The Domain.sites2 file is then copied onto the idisk.
Now, on Computer B the Domain.sites2 is downloaded from the idisk, and opened in iWeb. A change is made to the page (not a change to the photo) and the site is republished. When visiting the site a sunset still appears, but the blue sky is now really, really blue, and the subtle oranges and reds are now intensely red. It would appear that a significant amount of contrast and saturation has been added to the photo.
Something about publishing is different on Computer B.
Here's some additional interesting data.
The original photo file is 1024 x 656 pixels and 391K in size.
The photo is sized in iWeb to be 605 x 388.
After the initial publishing from Computer A (the one in which the image looks fine), and upon investigating the Site folder created on MobileMe, the photo file has been resized to be 605 x 388 and now occupies 108K. After publishing from Computer B (where the image is contrasty and oversaturated), the dimensions of the file are still 605 x 388, but the size of the file when published from Computer B is 111K, so the file as published from Computer B is clearly different.
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!http://homepage.mac.com/steve_hoge/.Pictures/QuickPreviewDetail.jpg!
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!http://homepage.mac.com/steve_hoge/.Pictures/SlideShowDetail.jpg!
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When I save a filtered photo from my iphone (filtered with "Tonal") onto my desktop into iPhoto, the filter dissappears and its saved as a standard color photo. Is there a reason why and way I can save it as is?

When I save a filtered photo from my iphone (filtered with "Tonal") onto my desktop into iPhoto, the filter dissappears and its saved as a standard color photo. Is there a reason why and way I can save it as is?

The reason is that Apple screwed up and despite threads for this issue dating back several months, there is no fix. It's outrageous -- a dozen or so photos that I just took got completely screwed up because of this. There isn't even a way to replicate the effects in iPhoto without major guesswork and tweaking.
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