Colors wrong in Indesign

When I print a color in Photoshop, it looks perfect. The entire doc needs to be printed in InDesign. When I print from Indesign, the colors look wrong. Color setting are synchronized throughout CS6. I have set the profile for the paper and printer I am using. What am I missing? Thanks to anyone who can assist.

First, you don't necessarily have to down-sample during export (that's up to you in the settings, along with the compression method), nor do you have to use lossy compression.
Second, descktop printers don't need as much resolution as a press, and excess resolution doesn't improve print quality.

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A coworker had separately created the same exact CMYK theme in InDesign CC, and created RGB values from the same exact CMYK values I had used in Adobe Color.
The InDesign RGB values are quite different from the Adobe Color values.
Anyone know why the values are not the same, and moreover, which CMYK to RGB conversion values may be relied upon for accuracy?
EDIT: I guess the real question should be, What are the color management settings built-in to Adobe Color CC, and can they be duplicated in desktop Adobe CC applications?
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I found what change it to normal way, but logicaly it's should not be a reason for autoconvert colors. If I choose CMYK and want add CMYK color it should be CMYK (in name minimum) and not RGB.
File->Documents Colors->CMYK(should be, but RGB was)
Right now options open like CMYK, not HSB. But if I want color in RGB it added like CMYK. Options like in CMYK, not HSB, again. Still look like error.

Why don't Adobe Color CC and InDesign CC convert CMYK to RGB the same?

I recently used Adobe Color CC to create a color theme that will be used for both print and web. I created the theme with approved CMYK values with the intent of saving the .ASE file to be imported into other CC apps. Corresponding RGB, Hex, Lab and HSB values are automatically created. Of course, we are using CMYK for print and RGB for web
A coworker had separately created the same exact CMYK theme in InDesign CC, and created RGB values from the same exact CMYK values I had used in Adobe Color.
The InDesign RGB values are quite different from the Adobe Color values.
Anyone know why the values are not the same, and moreover, which CMYK to RGB conversion values may be relied upon for accuracy?
Thanks very much

It's working for me (Web, PS, AE, ID, FL; not available in the Color Themes panel in Ai). Please click the triangle next to the color space to expand and view more data.

How to inforce specific color settings in InDesign CS4 js

Hi, I need to set specific color settings when creating a pdf from InDesign in Java script (not as a preset). What I found in previous discutions is:
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( in the Forum
http://forums.adobe.com/message/1108248#1108248),
which just somewhat make sence to me.
I saved my MyColorSettings.csf file in color settings folder, but I am not sure how to tell the script to access it, and I am not sure that that's the only
reason why the lines abouve don't work.
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Yulia, everything wrong in your script: first of all, setting cmsSettings and cmsSettingsPath at the same time makes no sense — this is the same as choosing a setting in Color Settings dialog and then clicking the Load button and selecting another setting — the second cancels the first. So, you need to set only cmsSettingsPath property. If you take a look at this property in OMV, you'll see that it requires File not String, as you are trying to set.
I would use the following code:
var myPath = "/Volumes/SPACE/Prepress/Export settings/InDesign CS4/ShowPDFoptions_CS4.jsx";
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On Mac volume name should be prepended with "/Volumes":
/Volumes/Remote/dir/file
On Windows, to access a remote volume, use a uniform naming convention path name of the form
//servername/sharename.
Or, if you have a mapped network drive:
/Z/foldername/foldername/filename
Where Z is a letter corresponding to your drive.
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myFilePath = File.openDialog("Locate the file");
$.writeln(decodeURI (myFilePath));
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Proper Color Management from Indesign- PDF- Printer

I can't get my head around this problem and it's been bugging me for a very long time. Maybe you can enlighten me on this?
Right, I know (heard), that when sending a PDF document into Offset Printer, it shouldn't have embeded ICC profiles (for whatever reasons). Here comes my problem: my Indesign is set to AdobeRGB for RGB and ISO Coated v2 (ECI) for CMYK images. When I create a new document and place in three same TIFF files, but each one with a different ICC profile (AdobeRGB/sRGB/ISO Coated V2) and then export this document into PDF (Acrobat 4 PDF 1.3, no color conversion and no profile embedding (in Output tab)), only the image with AdobeRGB looks exactly like I saw it in Indesign. The image in sRGB is more saturated and the CMYK image is different as well). This is also visible after printing out this document on Xerox 700.
Now, if I export the same document into PDF and choose to embed the ICC profiles, all three images look pretty much like they do in Indesign (and even as each other, except the CMYK one being a little bit off).
I looked into color settings in my Acrobat and found a strange thing. The working color profile for RGB space is AdobeRGB (which is correct), but for CMYK it is "Monitor RGB - sRGB IEC.....) - and when I try to change this to ISO Coated V2, hit OK, close Acrobat and open the PDF file again, it is set back to "Monitor RGB - sRGB IEC...." for CMYK color space.
So now I am confused, why images in PDF file that has no embeded ICC profiles look different from what I see in Indesign - is it normal? Or is my Color settings wrong? What would be the proper settings then?
And my other question: When I place a grayscale image into Indesign, it looks a lot darker than it looked in Photoshop. But when I enable the Overprint preview, they look OK. Now my concern is, what is correct? I don't want the images to come out so dark from print, but I can't really brighten them up any more in Photoshop, because there they look all right.

I try to stay optimistic about Adobe color management, but it really is broken. This thread is just another example of the problem.
Monitor profiles aside, the issue is the destination CMYK matching the print condition. Here we need a conversion to ISO Coated v2 (ECI).
Or do we? If the original PDF is all CMYK, Adobe's default answer is "No Conversion Necessary". You could have US Web Coated SWOP v2 going in, it doesn't matter. If this gets placed in the new InDesign, then re-output PDF/X with ISO Coated v2 Output Intent, you essentially have a false output intent in the new PDF that does not correlate with the original file.
Then, when you soft proof the original and the new on-screen, there is an appearance shift. But don't worry, it's OK, the numbers are the same. Which begs the question – if the numbers are OK, which appearance is correct?
So let's switch gears. Start all over, and this time try to maintain color appearance. That means the US Web Coated SWOP numbers will change in the conversion to ISO Coated. Incoming is PDF/X-1a, with US Web Output Intent. This is placed in InDesign and imposed. Now re-output to PDF again, this time "Convert to Destination", NOT preserving numbers.
Open up the PDF. We still have the blasted appearance shift! InDesign doesn't recognize the Output Intent in the original. All of the CMYK color in the original is Device, so InDesign leaves all the number values alone.
Back to the original PDF, in Acrobat. Since InDesign can't do the conversion, it has to be done here. Is it easy? Depends on your definition of easy. True, the PDF has the Output Intent. The problem is PDF/X-1a is not a format that is meant to be refried. If the Acrobat working space is ISO Coated, it will treat the entire PDF as source CMYK ISO coated, because – don't forget – it's Device color. Device = Uncalibrated. Convert to ISO, no CMYK values will change.
That means you have to change Acrobat CMYK working space to US Web. Now convert to the new Output Intent – ISO Coated. Don't forget to enable Preserve Black. Finally! A conversion. Let's just hope any JPEGs in the PDF survive getting refried.
The PDF can now be placed and imposed in InDesign. Just remember to reset your Acrobat Color Settings now that you've fixed the broken PDF.
Confused yet? It gets a lot better than that. What if whoever produced the original PDF didn't bother with PDF/X, or including profiles. Then you have mystery meat.
Mystery = broken. You can't go anywhere because you don't know where to start. Sure, the Acrobat CMYK working is the assumed color space of CMYK content in the PDF. But is that really the correct CMYK?
Probably not.

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to select from as in PhotoShop

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Color wrong when printing to Canon i9950 from CS5 apps and Acrobat, Win7 x64

When printing from InDesign CS5 on Win 7 x64 to Canon i9950 using the Canon ICM profiles (MP1, PR1, PR2, SP1) the colour output is completely wrong!
I disable the printer driver in the print prefs (set to "manual") and under "color management" choose "Let InDesign decide..." (no other option) for "color handling", and choose one of the above profiles for "printer profile", as appropriate to the paper in the printer, and the colours are totally out of whack.
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Interestingly, when setting output to the Canon profiles, it makes no difference whether the printer manages colour (auto) or not (manual). Also, strangely, these profiles were working fine with CS4, before installing CS5, but now they are not working in CS4 either!
So now "colour management" is a joke thanks to CS5.

You might check with Canon to see if they've prepared any updated printer drivers you can download and install.
Scout around this forum, a number of folks have reported certain Epson models with similar issues. Feedback from Adobe was that they've switched to newer printer interfaces under the covers, and not all printer drivers work properly with those interfaces. In one case at least a new printer had to be purchased to fix the problem.
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Color shifting in InDesign CS (3.01)

hi there-
I still have the original CS suite. I create publications in which i place all sorts of files from different sources into the inDesign file. i have some issues where InD shifts the colors slightly. Currently the example is a PDF file the client has sent in the ad which has a certain color, when i place the ad in InD and save it again as a PDF the color is quite different! (why??)
I checked it by opening both PDF's in PhotoShop and they are off quite a lot. I converting the original PDF into a Tiff, but it still doesn't hold it's color.
Usually it isn't enough to worry about but in this case it is. what color settings am i supposed to have? I have all my color settings turned off, thinking that if the program is not managing the color then the color imported is the color, and it doesn't change anything, obviously that was wrong... so what should i have it set to?
I have noticed this before in Photoshop, where i have a file that black should be black and when i bring it into photoshop it changes it to dark grey.
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>Subsequently that item may be re-interpreted in a different color space because the original profile is gone.
But the numbers are less likely to change, which is the OP's problem.
When you choose the Off policy the InDesign file is not assigned a profile when it is created and the embedded profiles of placed items are ignored (not discarded). In this case both the ID file and its placed files are color managed with the current CMYK working space. With the policy set to Off the only way you would get a change in CMYK numbers is if you chose something other than Document CMYK as the destination on export or output.
Preserve Numbers assigns a profile to the ID doc but ignores incoming profiles. If you want a profile to travel with the ID doc, but don't want placed files with conflicting profiles to be converted to new CMYK numbers (their previews would change not the numbers), then choose Preserve.
If you receive files to place from other sources and they have embedded profiles that don't match you ID doc's assigned profile, then you WILL get number changes if the policy is set to Preserve.
In any case, what is new to IDCS3 is that the policy is set when the doc is created, so changing policies later has no effect on that particular document.

Edit Color settings (Bridge/InDesign)

Hi all, today in office we have a discussion about Edit > Color settings (we use this setting from Bridge for syncro).
The question is: if i change Color settings (es. i change the rgb or cmyk working space) from InDesign i change only the swatches color? Is this correct? Because the graphic imported can (or not) maintain their color profile. What is wrong?
Many thanks!

Edit > Color settings (we use this setting from Bridge for syncro).
Color Settings is an application preference—you are setting the color preferences for new documents. So changing the Working Spaces in Color Settings will only affect existing documents if they have no color profile assigned (i.e., the Color Management Policies were set to Off when the document was created). If you want to change a document's profile you have to do it via Edit > Assign or Convert to Profile...
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2) if i import graphic with or without icc profile the assignment will be only when i export pdf, is it correct?
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I am using Windows 7 and the CS6 suite of products. We have a company logo in which both main colors have dramatically changed with the new books. I won't go into all of the tricks we've tried to be able to place it in new documents without the color changing. I now think the only answer is to replace the color books as Adobe recommends. I do have two questions, though.
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if anyone can help me please. I would really appreciate it.
I attached the file I sent to 4over incase that helps anyone answer my question.
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http://www.pantone.com/pages/products/product.aspx?pid=283&ca=1&s=4

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My colors are set up as spot. I even tried to print from Acrobat and "separations" is gray there also. Do I need to re-install my drivers or the programs.
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I've jumped from CS4 to CS6 and its been a little while since, but just trying to refamiliarize myself with the many Features of Indesign CS6.
Here's my issue: I have a really old CS4 document I've opened up and saved in CS6. I have to change all swatch colors throughout the document from pantone swatch 295 C to updated pantone swatch 293 C.
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