Colour Finesse in Premiere?

Hi - I'd like to get Synthetic Aperture set up to work in Premiere Pro - it'll save having to open clips in After Effects just to do the colour correcting, meaning that at the end of a project almost all the clips on the timeline are after effects linked comps.
The thing is that I 've tried to find it on the discs and can't, how can I install it after the fact? (main suite installation)
Is the only way to download a trial and then install that?
Hope someone can help.
Thanks in advance
Billy

The version of CF that ships with AE will only work in AE. You can see
the results in Pr via Dynamic Link, but you can't use that version of CF
directly in Pr.
If you want to use CF in Pr, then you'll have to visit the Synthetic
Aperture web site and buy a license for the Pr version.
-Jeff

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I'm running....
iMac 24 inch - early 2009
2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
8GB 1067 DDR3
NVIDIA GeForce 9400 256 MB
OS X10.8.2
Hope this is all you need to help me get this edit completed and exported off. Any more info you need just ask!
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