Colour shift problem in CS5 not in Lightroom

Hi Guys,
This is a long post but to save time Ill try to explain my setup and my problem which has only started in the last three weeks. My setup: Win Xp pro SP3 fully updated on a well speced dell machine/ Lightroom 3 (v 33 v 711369) Cs5 (latest version). Fully self profiled (I write my own profiles using xRite Pulse) printing through QImage to Epson 7880. I have been using PS since v5 (approx 10 years) and Cap1 and then lightroom since it came out.
My workflow is simple: Import Nikon D3 raw files to Lightroom, Using either acr or more recently (maybe one change I have made!) Camera standard calibration. Colour correct crop etc and export an adobe RGB jpeg export setting below: Hi Guys,
This is a long post but to save time Ill try to explain my setup and my problem which has only started in the last three weeks. My setup: Win Xp pro SP3 fully updated on a well speced dell machine/ Lightroom 3 (v 33 v 711369) Cs5 (latest version). Fully self profiled (I write my own profiles using xRite Pulse) printing through QImage to Epson 7880. I have been using PS since v5 (approx 10 years) and Cap1 and then lightroom since it came out.
My workflow is simple: Import Nikon D3 raw files to Lightroom, Using either acr or more recently (maybe one change I have made!) Camera standard calibration. Colour correct crop etc and export an adobe RGB jpeg export setting below: Hi Guys,
This is a long post but to save time Ill try to explain my setup and my problem which has only started in the last three weeks. My setup: Win Xp pro SP3 fully updated on a well speced dell machine/ Lightroom 3 (v 33 v 711369) Cs5 (latest version). Fully self profiled (I write my own profiles using xRite Pulse) printing through QImage to Epson 7880. I have been using PS since v5 (approx 10 years) and Cap1 and then lightroom since it came out.
My workflow is simple: Import Nikon D3 raw files to Lightroom, Using either acr or more recently (maybe one change I have made!) Camera standard calibration. Colour correct crop etc and export an adobe RGB jpeg export setting below:
NB Also set to do nothing after export!
All good so far. Colours on my profiled monitor are good. If I then print this file through Q image all is good (and this is most of my files!) . Happy days! However if I open in CS5 (Colour settings below-which have not changed for 10 years!) the colour changes. I am getting no profile mismatch warning (I shouldn’t – file is adobe rgb which is my working space). But there is a noticeable colour shift. If I do nothing to the file and resave the colour has shifted. I have tried opening a file/ saving with a different file name and printing the two on the same sheet of paper to eliminate printer issues – the shift that I see on my monitor is there. Why would opening an Adobe RGB jpeg in CS5 change its colour? It certainly never happened before. Also if within Lightroom I click “edit in PS”, open the file and resave the colour has shifted..
((I have also tried preserve embedded profile but this doesn’t solve the issue!)
My workaround is to do lightroom conversion, (colour correct!), Open and edit in CS5 (colour shift) save as different file name, Import into Lightroom (Now says embedded profile (This is correct I think) Do nothing in terms of colour (which now looks correct again!) and export (Wow Correct colour Again!!)
Does anybody know what is going on??
I have used half a roll of paper doing test prints and have established the following:
My monitor profile is correct, (What I see is what I get!)
QImage setting & My printer profile is correct ( What I see is what I get! By printing the two files on the same sheet (this will eliminate printer issues) I can see the CS5 file is very different - as on the monitor)
All lightroom exports are correct (what I see is what I get!)
I also opened a file on CS3 (across a network to a non colour managed machine but with adobe rgb work space, did nothing with the file but resave and the colours shift again!
I attach samples below: The difference reminds me of what an Adobe RGB file looks like on a non colour managed monitor – Flatter (no punch) but also a slightly green
Any Help would be much appreciated!
Thanks, Nigel
NB Also set to do nothing after export!

Very generally, they both describe profiles. ICC is the standard International Color Consortium format for profiles and ICM is Microsoft's flavor (standing for Integrated Color Management, I believe).
Photoshop et. al. are able to use both, but even a name match wouldn't mean the contents are identical. There is some possibility that they actually are equivalent under the covers in this case, and that my spotting the slight difference in names isn't the source of the visible color differences. It is almost certainly why the warning message is being emitted, though.
These may help further with definitions, but are not light reading by any means:
http://www.color.org/iccprofile.xalter
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg487495
-Noel

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