Colour space incorrectly reported

When exploring the metadata panels, I noticed all my photos were marked as Adobe RGB. This is incorrect as the camera was set to sRGB, which Photoshop Elements reports too.
This happens with Canon 20D RAW and JPEG files.
Anyone else notice this?

If this is happening with JPEGS then it's an issue,
but RAW files do NOT have ICC profiles embedded - RAW
files don't even have a colour space until they are
converted, let alone ICC profiles.
That is not how the 20D seems to operate. There is a menu option for colour space that allows me to set it to sRGB or Adobe RGB. This setting is reflected in the file names. sRGB photos are prefixed with IMG_, Adobe RGB are prefixed with MG .
Also the manual reads
"For normal images sRGB is recommended. In the Basic Zone modes, sRGB will be set automatically."
So it seems that Canon are nudging me towards using sRGB anyway. (I generally don't use the basic zone modes anyway, rather the aperture and shutter speed priority modes instead).
All my RAW files are IMG_ files. Not only that, but Canon's utilities report what colour space is associated with the RAW.
You might also want to rethink your monitor
calibration - sRGB and Adobe98 are profiles strictly
for images, not for screens - assigning one of them
to the screen will mess up the displayed colours.
Why then is there a display profile for sRGB and Adobe RGB in the System preferences? I don't understand what you mean here, sorry.
In general, Adobe98 is a larger space than sRGB,
which means that it can contain pretty well all the
colours available in sRGB, but can ALSO contain more
subtle colours which can't exist in sRGB. To see this
easily, open up ColorSync Utility from the Utilities
folder, click on Profiles and then swap between
Adobe98 and sRGB - it will show a graphical
representation of the two spaces.
Ian
I don't use a hardware calibrator (yet - budget constrains). I have just used the Disply prefs to assign the sRGB profile. I tried the Adobe RGB one and like I said it looks dull and subdued for everything else.
I notice in the following thread :
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=472188
you said
2a. The vast majority of web browsers (and as far as I know ALL Windows browsers) are not colour profile/ICC aware, and will assume if anything that all images are sRGB.
2b. In general, anything for screen or web use should be in sRGB.
The vast majority of my stuff I will put on a website for friends/family to view, so I have everything set to sRGB along the way so I can get (I hope) a fair idea how it is going to look. I do print things out occassionally though - I send them to a photo lab, I don't bother with a home photo printer. For the couple of photos I sent off, I didn't have a problem. They were JPEGs saved (pre Aperture) off the RAWs taken with the camera set to sRGB.
Since the images are in an sRGB profile, doesn't it make sense to have the monitor set to use that same profile?
I am happy to admit that I am an utter novice with the digital side of photography, and the different colour profiles and what not have me confused.
Any explanations are greatly appreciated
Chris
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