Colours inaccurate on export

I have noticed that when i export my movie to either mp4 or mpeg 2, the colours are inaccurate. There isn't a noticeable change in the video but the title banner i have that overlays the footage is red in premeiere pro but washed out and quite orange on export. My sequence is set up for 32bit colour and the render quality is fine. Please help! Oh and if anyone has a magical way to make hd footage converted to sd look decent please do because i am dissapointed with the current results, picture is unsharp and colours flat as a pancake

i understand to make full use of 24bit colour footage, you must select
32bit rendering else it is in a lesser broad coulour range of 8 bit
Normal colour space is 8 bits per channel, making 24 bits total for the three channels. 32 bits adds an alpha channel. Only few codecs support that. DV, HDV, AVCHD and the like do not. It does not expand the colour space, it just adds a fourth channel.
If you want to use 10 bit colour depth, you need a BlackMagic or AJA card and need to transcode to an intermediate format during capture. Still that is only 30 bits, not 32.
Maybe your sequence setup at 32 bits is the cause of this. Try with the normal 24 bits setting.
BTW, what is your source material with which codec and what have you done with chroma keys in your timeline?

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Hi Sorry about the crosspost, but I had no joy in the indesign forum:
this is a problem with a CMYK document, with CMYK images (mostly with no profile attached).
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Gethin,
hopefully you'll understand that it's hardly possible
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