Colours shifted in slideshow

I made a pdf-slideshow in Lightroom 3.
When i look at this pdf-file with the Adobe pdf-reader, then the colours are shifted to 'more reds' compared to the originals.
When i look at the pdf-file within Bridge, then the colours are ok.
Why is this happening ? And can i avoid it ?

I think i have to mention that my starting
pictures are raw-files (dng-format)

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