Combine Profiles and Target Groups -Segmentation

Hi Experts,
I have a requirement where I will need to join profiles with other profiles and Target groups. I checked in help.sap and I saw the following sentence regarding combining the profiles.
In addition to attributes, you can also combine profiles with other profiles and with target groups.
Example
You select a profile from the components area, drag it onto an existing profile in the staging area and choose keep. The resulting profile contains the attributes contained in both profiles as inclusive conditions.
How do I get the Profiles and the Target groups in the Components area? I can only view the existing Attribute lists. Is there any setting that I have to make to see the existing profiles and target groups ?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Hi Pooja,
which version of the product do you use? CRM 2007?
Scenario 1) I need to combine 2 profiles with an 'OR' condition and create target groups out of the combined profile. How do I accomplish this? Is there any method to combine profiles in the Graphic Modeler?
=> You could have 2 profiles in a profileset and create the target group for the complete profileset. Then the results are "OR combined".
=> Alternatively you can create a new profile which consists of all attributes and create a target group for this profile.
Scenario 2) If we have 2 profiles and a target group in a profile set how do I create a Target Group for all the BP's in the Profile set. The only selection criteria in the Graphic Modeller for me right now is Attribute lists. How do I select Target Groups and Profiles
=> Just create the target group for the complete profile set, then one consolidated target group is created.
Does this help?
Regards, Guido.

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