Combo: High CPU temperature

Hi,
My PC CPU temperature is 43C when idle. But it rises up to 60C when under load.
The system temperature ranges from 35 to 38 depending on system load.
I have double checked CPU fan, it is perfectly attached.
CPU clock is 3.0 GB 1MB, 512 DDR1 @ 400 MHz
I am running the system on the default clocks (No overclocking).
3 Fans for system cooling.
Is this normal temperature?  
Thanks,

Very normal, Almost to cold for a Prescott! I would like to see these temps at my system.....

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