Commitment carryforward
Hi, is it mendatory to carryforward budget on internal orders (if commitments against the same are carried forward)? in order to complete purchasing process.
regards,
Farhan
Hi Far,
Check first the asset number attached to that Internal Order. On the general Tab, see if that asset was deactivated (settled already).
If it was deactivated or settled, remove the date indicated in deactivation tab, then save.
Trust when performing GR on goods receipt, system will allow to execute.
Thanks
Mila
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Enhance Budget Entry Documents for Commitment Carryforward
Anyone implemented the badi: Enhance Budget Entry Documents for Commitment Carryforward before?
May I know what changes are required in order to ensure that the budget entry documents is in local currency (SGD) when commitment carryforward is in foreign currency (USD)?Hi,
So, you want the budgetary document to be posted in local currency? I don't ask for reasons, though, as you probably know, even if the document is posted in foreign currency, local currency amount would be also there and the AVC would be performed also in local currency. But, if you need to change the currency, you can indeed use this BADI and modify I_BUDGET_ENTRY_DOC_SENDER and I_BUDGET_ENTRY_DOC_RECEIVER parameters, changing the currency and the amount.
I'm not sure about your remark 'change code' as BADI does not come with any code at all. You will have to implement the BADI providing your own code to change the required fields.
Regards,
Eli -
Accounts reassignments during commitment carryforward
We had change in organizational structure and now need functional restructuring during year change operations.
We want to make account reassignments with the carryover.
If in the Customizing of Funds Management I have defined that commitment carryforward and budget carryover are possible.
Account assignment change is allowed during the commitment carryforward of purchase orders.
Strategy for Reassignment with relationships of the u201Coldu201D to the u201Cnewu201D account assignment is made.
And now I ran FMJ2 to do purchase order carryforward.
But it appears to have ignored the assignment change, and ignored any subsequent activity applied to the new assignment.
Assignment stay as it was.
Has anybody else enountered this? Can anybody tell me what may be causing this, and how to fix it?
Thank you.Eli, thank you very much!))
Now derivation strategy for reassingnment works! But it works wrong - I don't understand where I made a mistake.
Let me describe my derivation for reassignment.
I have 4 steps. In first three I initialyze:
1. Initialization of commetment item - Derivation performed successfully. Value before:1, Value after: (blank)
2. Initialization of Fund - Derivation performed successfully. Value before:3, Value after: (blank)
3. Initialization of Fund center - Derivation performed successfully. Value before:7, Value after: (blank)
4. Derivation rule, with simple rule value, for example: 1/3/7(source fields)=1/3/1(target fields) - Derivation not performed. Reason:source field contains no value.
And now I have 2 mistake messages in FMJ2:
The value BLANK/SPACE is not valid; acct assgmt element Funds Center (strategy for reassignment) - Message no. FMCF803
The value BLANK/SPACE is not valid; acct assgmt element Commitment Item (strategy for reassignment) Message no. FMCF803 -
PSM-FM Commitment Carryforward
Dear Experts,
I have a problem when performing commitment carryforward.
I am using Funds to represent each quarter of a year, this object is derived in FMDERIVE by posting date.
When performing commitment carryforward I need to change the fund assigned to the commitments for a new one.
I'm already using the derivation strategy for reclassification. But, when performing commitment carryforward I get an error message because this strategy is not consistent with FMDERIVE.
Can you help me solve this problem?
Thanks in advance.
Kind regards,
Joana MensuradoHi,
"The message is the following:
Reassignment of account assignment element Fund not possible
Message no. FMCF108
Diagnosis
The Define Account Assignment Derivation is not compatible with the Define Derivation Strategy for Reassignment. The value 0 was determined for document no. 4000000258, the reassignment strategy for account assignment element Fund. However, this was overwritten with value 4 through the account assignment derivation of Funds Management.
System Response
The document is not processed.
Procedure
Adjust the Account Assignment Derivation of Funds Management or the Define Derivation Strategy for Reassignment in such a way that they are compatible with each other."
The problem is that I cannot ajudst the account assignment derivation neither the derivation strategy for reassignment. I need that the derivation strategy for reassignment completely substitutes the acc. ***. derivation.
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Commitment carryforward(Payment budget) error
Hello,
While trying to carryforward commitments via FMJ2(for chain documents) the system gave the following error message (select at least one line).There was no line that i could select besides the actual purchase requisition/order line .I highlighted the PR/PO line but the error continued.
I have been unable to carryforward the open commitments from the last fiscal year to the new one because of this error.Will appreciate ideas
RegardsHi have made some progress on the issue but am now having issues with downpayment carryforward.
In transaction fmj_anz (carryforward down payment & downpayment clearing)i keep getting the message that valuetype 61(downpayment) is not allowed for carryforward
I have gone through the config settings in BCS- commitment closing operations.I have been able to assign downpayments value type in all areas but in enter settings for commitment carryforward payment budget
Its not available in the valutype field for selection.
Any suggestions will be highly appreciated.
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Commitment carryforward (Former budgeting)
Dear all,
After having upgraded from 4.6C to ECC 6.0, we tried to cancel commitment carryforward (RFFMCCFR) and we obtained the following message : "no item found for the reversal of the commitment carryforward". Table FMIOI is well updated with amount type 0350.
Can u help me ?
ThanksHello Jean-Didier,
After an upgrade, table FMIT might not be correctly updated, and this may also cause problems in CF processes.
Please have a look at this note and follow its instructions:
977016 FMIT: Missing totals records in Funds Management
check whether RFFMRC04 shows any inconsistency and let us know, Ok?
thanks and best regards, Mar -
Payment selection or commitment carryforward locked
Hi experts. We have 7 companies working in the same productive system. We are getting this message "Payment selection or commitment carryforward locked .." when two companies are trying to execute FMF0 at the same time. I need your advice, how can I handle this situation. I tried to schedule FMF0 execution for every company, but their are complaining with this solution.
Regards,
RuthHello Ruth
There is the option to use parallel processing in FMJ2 which helps to improve performance. Also there is a flag to decide whether or not the documents should be locked.
However, generally FMJ2 should not be ran by several users at the same
time. Even if the documents lock is not selected, you are still using
S200 and therefore a general lock on the payment selection is
performed, despite of what's selected concerning to locks at document
level. This is for data protection.
So, at this stage we could suggest the following:
- Do not have several users running FMJ2 at the same time. Normally
mass transactions are intended to be ran by one user.
- Define parallel processing and schedule background executions,
in order to optimize user's times. I suggest to use job starting
conditions in order to have one job started after the previous one
is finished.
If your business process definitely cannot be changed, there would
be an option to deactivate the lock on S200 but I have to aware you
that it'll be a modification and therefore falls out of the SAP Support
Scope. If you definitely decide to implement a modification, you may contact SAP Support.
Reason and Prerequisites for the existing lock:
The commitment carryforward sets the same program lock as the payment
selection (FMF0, RFMS200). This is necessary since a simultaneously
executing the payment selection and the commitment carryforward would
result in data inconsistencies. Since payment selection can also update
cross FM area payments, the lock is set for an entire client.
Therefore it is not possible to start the payment selection in parallel
modes.
I hope this information will help you
Kind regards
Mar -
Commitment carryforward (FMJ2)
Hello,
After having upgraded from 4.6C to ECC 6.0, we tried to run FMJ2 and we obtained the following message : "No open items to be carried forward found". This only applies to every Purchase order created before the upgrade.
Table FMIOI has open items for the commitment for these POs.
We ran RFFMRC04 succesfully, but the error remains.
Kind regards,
Adriana.Hello Ming,
We have executed RFFM_LINE_ITEMS_NOT_NULL and applied note 429225 (execute every program needed in this note).
This solved our problem for PO's.
But for Good Receipts are also carried forward, and every one created before the upgraded are not taken into account on FMJ2.
Is I modify the text on one of this GR then this document is displayed on FMJ2.
If there any other program which can fix the GR too?
Kind regards,
Adriana. -
How to do Commitment item carryforward (Fund Management) ?
Dear experts,
Please guide me how to do commitment item carryforward.
I've read thought SAP help, it said I need to do commitment item carryforward.
But I have no idea, what's the transaction code, what parameter to fill in..
Kindly guide me or send me related document...please....
[FM Newbie]T code : CJCF - Carry Forward Commitment
Parameters: - Carrying Forward Commitments
To carry forward a commitment to the first period of the following fiscal year, proceed as follows:
Choose Accounting ® Controlling ® Cost Center Accounting ® Year-end closing ® Commitment carried forward.
Enter the relevant cost center(s).
Select or deselect the following indicators:
Test run
If you select Test run, the system carried forward the commitment, but does not update the results.
Detail lists
If you activate Detail list, the system displays the results of the commitment carried forward. The results list shows which values were carried forward.
You should activate the Detail list together with the Test run. This ensures that you can check the results of the test run.
Reversal
The Reversal indicator controls whether data that has already been carried forward should be reversed again or not.
If you have large amounts of data to process, it is advisable to execute the commitment carry-forward using background processing. This means you can process data at times of minimal system usage.
Choose Program Execute in background.
SAP help : - Year-End Closing Reports
The reports on year-end closing give you an overview of the closing operations (commitment carryforward and budget carryforward) with fiscal year change.
The reports display totals records. A comparison of the line items transferred to the new fiscal year with the totals is possible using the program (RFFMCFRC) Year-End Closing Data: Totals Records on Line Items
Features
· Commitments and budget carried forward (RFFMEP1GX)
This report displays commitment, budget for commitment and budget for a fiscal year that were carried forward to the following year.
· Commitment carried forward in a test run (RFFMEP2GX)
This report displays commitment belonging to a fiscal year that was carried forward to the following year in a a test run using the Commitment Carryforward
· Preselected budget (RFFMEP3GX)
This report displays budget for a fiscal year that was determined for the carryforward into the following year with the program RFFMCF25. -
KOCO -( Budget Carryforward) & KOCF ( commitment carry forward ) report
Hi
Can some one explain me how to be sure that some one has successfully run two t-codes KOCO -( Budget Carryforward) & KOCF ( commitment carry forward ). I want to make sure that Budget and Commitment carry forward has taken place.Is there any report which I can run.This situation is due to a person left the organization suddenly and I am not sure he has run it.In any case if I run it again what will happen ?
Thanks in advance
SatyaHi Abhinay,
Thanks for the answer.
When you say they have to perform year end activities like checking PO and PR, what actually they are doing? Do they just need to check whether those PO or PR are required (if not, close them) or they need to do something more? . As far as I know, no steps like checking PO and PR are required here. So I am wondering whether we have missed anything or not. Can you give me some details about that step?
Also, if we are using only Total value for the budget, not annual value, I don't need to do the budget carry forward closing step. In this case, do I need to do the commitment carryforward step?
Thanks,
Ting -
Open PO Commitment carry forwrd
Dear Experts
We are carrying forwarding open PO commitments existed in 2011 fiscal year. But in this process
we observed that system is carry forwarding open PO commitments alongnwith committed Budget (in config settings we have selected only commt crwd allwd ).
But as per our business requirements open PO commitment amount should be consumed in the fiscal year budget i.e., 2012 fiscal budget only.
Ex: in 2011 PO is having open PO commitment 100/-, While doing the carry forward activity open po commitment value along with committed budget also getting carryforwarded to new fiscal year 2012.
Kindly suggest how to restrict the carry of budget it relates to open PO commitment. We need only open po commitment carryforward.
thanks in advance..
Regards
RaoHi,
Commitment budget is carried-forward along with the commitment due to customization. Check the following path: IMG - Public Sector Management - Funds Management Government - Closing Operations - Closing Operations for Budget Control System (BCS) - Activate Budget Carryforward for Commitment.
Regards,
Eli -
Commitment Carry Forward in the year end closing!
Hi All,
We have a lot of open PRs and POs against Internal orders and WBS at the year end and we also have the budget control activated. Now we are going to do the year end closing. My question is:
1. Who should do the commitment carry forward, supply chain or FI team?
2. If supply chain will do the PR or PO carry forward, will FI team also need to run the commitment carry forward (KOCF or CJCF) from FI side at the same time or not necessary?
Thanks,
TingHi Abhinay,
Thanks for the answer.
When you say they have to perform year end activities like checking PO and PR, what actually they are doing? Do they just need to check whether those PO or PR are required (if not, close them) or they need to do something more? . As far as I know, no steps like checking PO and PR are required here. So I am wondering whether we have missed anything or not. Can you give me some details about that step?
Also, if we are using only Total value for the budget, not annual value, I don't need to do the budget carry forward closing step. In this case, do I need to do the commitment carryforward step?
Thanks,
Ting -
Activate carryforward of budget for commitments
Hello Gurus,
When we execute carryforward for a purch order or purch requisition,
eventhough we activated the carryforward of budget for commitments, the
system is updating only table FMBDT.
So the amount of the carryforward item does not affect the avaliability
control (table FMAVCT) so we end up having more commitment on the next
year but without the avaliability of the document carried forward.
When we sum the record type '1 Plan' minus '0 Actual' we realize that wehave less avaliable budget than before.
In table FMBDT the system creates a record for process 'CORV Carry For.
Recv' for record type 1 Plan.
We reestructure avaliability control tx FMAVCREINIT and it does nothing.
Regards,
Adriana.Hello,
Maybe some quick check can help you trouble shoot the problem:
1. Identify the Budget Type for Carry-forward receiver:
Spro > Public sector management > Funds management government > Closing operations > Closing operations for BCS > Define budget entry documents for commitment carryforward; look for Settings for receiver lines and get the Budget Type.
2. Check whether the above Budget Type is included in the AVC Ledger:
Spro > Public sector management > Funds management government > BCS > Availarbility control > Settings for availability control leger > Define filter settings for budget values > Define the consumable budget; select ledger 9H and check whether the budget type identified in 1 is included.
Regards,
Ming -
Dear experts,
When executing transaction FMJ3 to reverse commitment carryforwards made from 2014 to 2015 I get the error message “FMCF110 - The document item was reassigned after the commitment carryforward”. I have several documents in the situation, I understand that this documents already suffered changes in the new year and thus have a new account assignment. The problem is that I need to reverse them to the previous year anyway.
Is there a way to reverse or reset the new account assignment so that it goes back to the previous one? In this way I could reverse the carryforward.
Thanks in advance.
Best regards,
Joana MensuradoHi,
You have to reassign this commitment to the same FM assignment which was created during carry-forward (FMCB/FMCT). Then, FMJ3 will allow you to process. However, keep in mind that you have already consumed this commitment partially or completely in a new year, then carry-forward won't be available even if you get back the previous assignment.
Regards,
Eli -
At our company commitment carryforward is only possible for one year, meaning that documents created in the current year and fund. e.g year 2009 fund A9, can be carriedforward the commitments and the budget to the next year and equal fund e.g year 2010 fund A9.
The problem arises when in 2010 the flow of documents is not completed, meaning that my purchase order is not completed receptioned or invoiced. From that moment, the commitments can´t consume carryforward budget.
Now what it is done is:
Creating a new funds reservation in 2011, adding a new line item to the purchase order with account assignment the new funds reservation and the quantities pending to delivered. For the ones delivered but not invoiced direct invoices are made against the new funds reservation.
I don´t know which is SAP Bestpractices for this cases in order to avoid modifying the purchase order or lost the purchase order history due to direct invoices, any suggestions?
The issue is that now refuses to go shopping in this way and wants the budgetary effects do not impact on purchasing documents. This means creating new
lose lines or purchase history to make direct invoices against the reserve.
What we were trying was made a commitments carriedforward this documents without budget, meaning documents that are in year 2010 fund a9 will be carryforward to fund a11 year 2011, and consume the budget of 2011, but for the commitments of a10 2010 the commitment carryforward must be with budget and result in fund a10 year 2011.
We performed t-code fmj2 to transfer a9 2010 documents to a11 2011. But those documents dont appear at a11 2011 but neither remain at fmj2. I understand that are pending that i make the budget transfer in order they appear but as i said I dont want to transfer budget for this cases I want them to consume from a11 2011. Is this possible and compatible with budget carryfoward for commitments to the following year. Am I missing running any t-code or customizing.
Sorry for the long and not very clear explanation.
Best regards and thanks for the helpFinally, about your last paragraph:
"And also after finishing fmj2, instead of running fmja,fmjb and fmjc as in cases of CF with budget I dont run these tcde and I only run fm9p,fmbv and fm9qbud, but nothing happens not carryforward is done but the strange thing is that in fmj2 the documents don´t appear in order to try to run it again."
FMJ2 is for open items carryforward, i.e. EF's, PO's, invoices, etc. Then, once they have been successfully carried forward, they should not be selected by FMJ2 anymore.
If those items were CF'd with their own budget (i.e. CF via FMJ2 should include the budget already consumed by those documents), the remaining budget will stay the same in the Old FY and you would not need to run a Budget CF for those documents (i.e. you won't need FMJA, FMJB, FMJC)
If they were CF'd without their budget, then, the Residual Budget CF should be done via separate steps (FMJA, FMJB,FMJC).
I think you do not need FM9P nor FM9QBUD. Only FMBV at the end of the whole process if you ran FMJ2 without availability control.
I nevertheless suggest you to have a look at the documentation in these IMG activities, and also at the online help:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/f0/ca5716260211d28a430000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
Under 'Closing operations'
Let me know if this helps.
Kind regards
Mar
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