Commitment Warning w.r.t Fund Center from PO

Dear All,
We've Activated Funds Management as per the client requirements.
But I am facing the following issue w.r.t commitment update.
Details:
Creating the PO w.r.t to Fund center & commitment item as A/c Assignment.
I've created Formal Budget for selected fund center/Commitment item which is assigned in PO
Tolerance Limit also activated for availability control with 80% warning & 90% as Error Msg.
Issue:
But, during creation of PO, even though it is crossing the 100% of assigned budget, availability control is not working due to which system not giving error msg,
If anyone any idea on this type of issue, please guide me how to resolve this.
Note: I've created PO, GR also, but in Commitment/Actual Report under Funds Management, system showing 100% as Available Amount.

Are you using Former Budgeting or BCS, "Budget Control System"
If you are using BCS, try reconstructing the budget using FMAVCREINIT
If you are using Former Budgeting, use FMBV or FM9P

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