Communication between CRM and ERP for E-commerce scenario

Question more on lines of system architecture design.
We are planning to implement CRM E-commerce and wanted to find out more detail about the communication between CRM and ERP systems. Do they need to communicate in real time for this application, or is it mainly initial and delta loads? Is the amount of data exchanged huge ( necessitating both systems to be on the same network, or can they be on separate geographical locations )?
We also understand that E-commerce can also be done only using ERP. How does that differ from the CRM version?

Hey Sanket,
Q 1 . Do CRM and ECC need to communicate in real time for Ecommerce application, or is it mainly initial and delta loads
Ans. CRM and ECC communicate using RFC connections which further uses TCP/IP as the protocol.The communication can be both  real time { delta loads} or offline {initial download}.
Q2 .Is the amount of data exchanged huge ( necessitating both systems to be on the same network, or can they be on separate geographical locations )?
Ans. The amount of data can be huge hence its preferable that both systems to be on the same network.
Q 3. We also understand that E-commerce can also be done only using ERP. How does that differ from the CRM version
Ans.Theres no difference functionally  but technically the application connects to the ECC system using JCO to execute all the RFC enabled function modules.
Warm Regards,
Sumit

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    |Short Text                                                                                        |
    |    Error during VM Container communication between ABAP and JAVA.                                |
    |What happened?                                                                                    |
    |    The current program had to be terminated because of an                                        |
    |    error when installing the R/3 System.                                                         |
    |    Error in the RFC layer.                                                                       |
    |What can you do?                                                                                  |
    |    Note which actions and entries caused the error to occur.                                     |
    |                                                                                                  |
    |    Consult your SAP administrator.                                                               |
    |                                                                                                  |
    |    Using transaction ST22 for ABAP dump analysis, you can view, manage,                          |
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    |Error analysis                                                                                    |
    |    An error has occurred in the RFC layer during communication between                           |
    |    JAVA and the ABAP stack. This prevents data from being passed correctly                       |
    |    between the two stacks.                                                                       |
    |                                                                                                  |
    |    Message    = TH_VMC_SERV_NOT_ACTIVE                                                           |
    |    Return code = -1007                                                                           |
    |    Pointer    = "000007DD348F6138"                                                               |
    |How to correct the error                                                                          |
    |    Check whether the VMC is active on your application server. To do this,                       |
    |    run transaction SM52. If the VMC is not active, contact your SAP                              |
    |    administrator.                                                                                |
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    M intno      20050900
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    M  DpShMCreate: sizeof(tm_adm)          3954072     (19672)
    M  DpShMCreate: sizeof(wp_ca_adm)          24000     (80)
    M  DpShMCreate: sizeof(appc_ca_adm)     8000     (80)
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    M  DpShMCreate: sizeof(comm_adm)          528064     (1048)
    M  DpFileTableSize: max/headSize/ftSize/tableSize=0/0/0/0
    M  DpShMCreate: sizeof(file_adm)          0     (72)
    M  DpShMCreate: sizeof(vmc_adm)          0     (1452)
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    M  DpShMCreate: allocated comm_adm at 05FD3870
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    B  000 000 R/3              000000000 ACTIVE       NO  YES NO  000 255 255 20110831 154542 CRMSYS         
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