Compact colour spectrum to RGB
Hello,
I would like to convert the array of the colour spectrum I get from the colour learn VI to to an RGB colour as one or 3 values. The help says that the output of the colour learn VI is
Color Spectrum returns the color features found in the image region. These features represent the color information in the image region in a compact form.
How can I do that?
Thanks,
Zied
Thanks for your reply. I tried to follow your advice. I used the VI attached with the png picture and I tried to move the rectangle from the right to the left but the values I get are not increasing or decrising, they were random especially when I move from the blu to the yellow.
Zied
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{AEDC1D5D-8546-440E-AAB2-B69FA725AF82}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_FieldAdaptive
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{AEDC1D5D-8546-440E-AAB2-B69FA725AF82}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_FieldAdaptive
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{AEDC1D5D-8546-440E-AAB2-B69FA725AF82}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_FieldAdaptive
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{AEDC1D5D-8546-440E-AAB2-B69FA725AF82}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_FieldAdaptive
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{AEDC1D5D-8546-440E-AAB2-B69FA725AF82}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_FieldAdaptive
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{AEDC1D5D-8546-440E-AAB2-B69FA725AF82}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC3,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_FieldAdaptive
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC3,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC3,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{AEDC1D5D-8546-440E-AAB2-B69FA725AF82}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_FieldAdaptive
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY VideoProcess_AlphaBlend DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
Sound Devices
Description: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0883&SUBSYS_107B7201&REV_1000
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: RTKVHDA.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.6526 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 12/13/2011 19:27:30, 3921448 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Sound Capture Devices
Description: Stereo Mix (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: RTKVHDA.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.6526 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 12/13/2011 19:27:30, 3921448 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF
DirectInput Devices
Device Name: Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a
Device Name: Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a
Poll w/ Interrupt: No
USB Devices
+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x8086, 0x27C8
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 196096 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 1/21/2008 03:32:24, 5888 bytes
Gameport Devices
PS/2 Devices
+ Standard PS/2 Keyboard
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0303
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 1/21/2008 03:32:45, 54784 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 1/21/2008 03:32:49, 35384 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 1/21/2008 03:32:45, 54784 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 1/21/2008 03:32:49, 35384 bytes
|
+ HID-compliant mouse
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x15D9, 0x0A4D
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| Service: mouhid
| Driver: mouhid.sys, 1/21/2008 03:32:45, 15872 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 1/21/2008 03:32:45, 34360 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 4/11/2009 14:18:05, 53224 bytes
| Driver: sermouse.sys, 1/21/2008 03:32:45, 19968 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 1/21/2008 03:32:45, 34360 bytes
Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
Drive: C:
Free Space: 32.1 GB
Total Space: 114.5 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: WDC WD1200JS-00NCB1 ATA Device
Drive: D:
Model: ATAPI DVD W DH16W1P ATA Device
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 67072 bytes
System Devices
Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 27DF
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27DF&SUBSYS_7201107B&REV_01\3&2ACF1E9&0&F9
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\intelide.sys, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/21/2008 03:32:21, 17976 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 43496 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 19944 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ataport.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 109032 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller - 27DA
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27DA&SUBSYS_7201107B&REV_01\3&2ACF1E9&0&FB
Driver: n/a
Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27D8&SUBSYS_7201107B&REV_01\3&2ACF1E9&0&D8
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\hdaudbus.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:07, 561152 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Root Port - 27D6
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27D6&SUBSYS_27D68086&REV_01\3&2ACF1E9&0&E3
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 149480 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Root Port - 27D4
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27D4&SUBSYS_27D48086&REV_01\3&2ACF1E9&0&E2
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 149480 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Root Port - 27D0
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27D0&SUBSYS_27D08086&REV_01\3&2ACF1E9&0&E0
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 149480 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 27CC
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27CC&SUBSYS_7201107B&REV_01\3&2ACF1E9&0&EF
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:07, 39936 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:07, 226304 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 196096 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\hccoin.dll, 6.00.6000.16386 (English), 11/2/2006 10:46:05, 8704 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\hcrstco.dll, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/21/2008 03:32:24, 15872 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27CB
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27CB&SUBSYS_7201107B&REV_01\3&2ACF1E9&0&EB
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/21/2008 03:32:24, 23552 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:07, 226304 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 196096 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\hcrstco.dll, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/21/2008 03:32:24, 15872 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27CA
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27CA&SUBSYS_7201107B&REV_01\3&2ACF1E9&0&EA
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/21/2008 03:32:24, 23552 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:07, 226304 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 196096 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\hcrstco.dll, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/21/2008 03:32:24, 15872 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27C9
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27C9&SUBSYS_7201107B&REV_01\3&2ACF1E9&0&E9
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/21/2008 03:32:24, 23552 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:07, 226304 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 196096 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\hcrstco.dll, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/21/2008 03:32:24, 15872 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller - 27C8
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27C8&SUBSYS_7201107B&REV_01\3&2ACF1E9&0&E8
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/21/2008 03:32:24, 23552 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:07, 226304 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 196096 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\hcrstco.dll, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/21/2008 03:32:24, 15872 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) Serial ATA Storage Controller - 27C0
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27C0&SUBSYS_7201107B&REV_01\3&2ACF1E9&0&FA
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\intelide.sys, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/21/2008 03:32:21, 17976 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 43496 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 19944 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ataport.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 109032 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family) LPC Interface Controller - 27B8
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27B8&SUBSYS_7201107B&REV_01\3&2ACF1E9&0&F8
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\msisadrv.sys, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/21/2008 03:32:22, 16440 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2772&SUBSYS_7201107B&REV_02\3&2ACF1E9&0&10
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\igdkmd32.sys, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 19:36:10, 2302976 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igdumd32.dll, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 19:36:08, 3301376 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\iglhxs32.vp, 2/11/2008 21:06:46, 32848 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\iglhxo32.vp, 2/11/2008 18:35:36, 2096 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\iglhxc32.vp, 10/19/2006 03:10:57, 2096 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\hccutils.dll, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:46:50, 106496 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxsrvc.dll, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:47:14, 48640 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxsrvc.exe, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 20:13:10, 256536 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxpph.dll, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:47:34, 204800 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxcpl.cpl, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:47:24, 122880 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxcfg.exe, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 20:13:04, 539160 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxdev.dll, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:46:44, 204800 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxdo.dll, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:46:58, 135168 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxtray.exe, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 20:13:12, 141848 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxzoom.exe, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 20:13:14, 170520 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\hkcmd.exe, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 20:13:02, 166424 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxress.dll, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:46:32, 3293184 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxpers.exe, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 20:13:08, 133656 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxTMM.dll, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:48:00, 245760 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxext.exe, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 20:13:06, 170520 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxexps.dll, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:47:26, 24576 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\oemdspif.dll, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:47:38, 69632 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrara.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:14, 159744 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrchs.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:14, 114688 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrcht.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:14, 110592 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrdan.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:16, 176128 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrdeu.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:16, 192512 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrenu.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:46:32, 172032 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxresp.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:16, 188416 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrfin.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:16, 176128 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrfra.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:18, 184320 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrheb.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:18, 155648 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrita.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:18, 188416 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrjpn.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:18, 131072 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrkor.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:20, 126976 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrnld.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:20, 188416 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrnor.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:20, 176128 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrplk.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:20, 180224 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrptb.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:20, 180224 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrptg.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:20, 180224 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrrus.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:22, 180224 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrsky.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:22, 176128 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrslv.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:22, 172032 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrsve.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:22, 176128 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrtha.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:22, 163840 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrcsy.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:14, 176128 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrell.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:16, 192512 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrhun.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:18, 184320 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxrtrk.lrc, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 18:52:22, 172032 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\ig4icd32.dll, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 19:01:30, 2420736 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\ig4dev32.dll, 7.14.0010.1437 (English), 2/11/2008 19:01:44, 2174976 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\igfxCoIn_v1437.dll, 2/11/2008 19:55:18, 147456 bytes
Name: Intel(R) 945G/GZ/P/PL Processor to I/O Controller - 2770
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2770&SUBSYS_7201107B&REV_02\3&2ACF1E9&0&00
Driver: n/a
Name: Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_7201107B&REV_E1\3&2ACF1E9&0&F0
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 14:18:06, 149480 bytes
Name: Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1094&SUBSYS_7201107B&REV_01\4&1535EDCF&0&40F0
Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\e100b325.sys, 8.00.0044.0000 (English), 1/21/2008 03:32:24, 159744 bytes
Name: PCI Soft Data Fax Modem with SmartCP
Device ID: PCI\VEN_14F1&DEV_2F40&SUBSYS_200014F1&REV_00\4&1535EDCF&0&28F0
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Driver: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\HSXHWBS2.sys, 7.67.0000.0000 (English), 6/20/2007 03:28:38, 267264 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\HSX_DPV.sys, 7.67.0000.0000 (English), 6/20/2007 03:29:56, 984064 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\mdmxsdk.sys, 1.00.0002.0012 (English), 6/19/2006 06:26:58, 12672 bytes
Driver: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\HSFProf.cty, 6/30/2007 14:38:38, 143829 bytes
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DirectShow Filters
DirectShow Filters:
WMAudio Decoder DMO,0x00800800,1,1,,
WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMSpeech Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
MP3 Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
Mpeg4s Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
WMV Screen decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
Mpeg43 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,,
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WMT Import Filter,0x00200000,0,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
DV Muxer,0x00400000,0,0,,6.06.6001.18000
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WM ASF Reader,0x00400000,0,0,,11.00.6001.7000
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WMT Format Conversion,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
9x8Resize,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
StreamBufferSink,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.6002.18363
WMT Virtual Source,0x00200000,0,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
MJPEG Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
MPEG-I Stream Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,,6.06.6002.18533
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Stretch Video,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
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Video Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,,6.06.6002.18533
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Capture ASF Writer,0x00200000,0,0,WMM2FILT.dll,
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CoreNullXfrm Filter,0x00000000,0,0,,
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Record Queue,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
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Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.06.6002.18005
WMT Log Filter,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x005fffff,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.6002.18496
WMT Virtual Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,WMM2FILT.dll,
StreamBufferSource,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.6002.18363
Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,,6.06.6001.18000
Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6002.18533
AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
WMT MuxDeMux Filter,0x00200000,0,0,WMM2FILT.dll,
AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,,6.06.6002.18533
WMT Volume,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
WMT VIH2 Fix,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6001.18000
Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,,6.06.6002.18533
File Source (URL),0x00400000,0,1,,6.06.6002.18533
AudioRecorder WAV Dest,0x00200000,0,0,,6.00.6001.18000
AudioRecorder Wave Form,0x00200000,0,0,,6.00.6001.18000
SoundRecorder Null Renderer,0x00200000,0,0,,6.00.6001.18000
Infinite Pin Tee Filter,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
WMT Switch Filter,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
Enhanced Video Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,evr.dll,6.00.6002.18005
Uncompressed Domain Shot Detection Filter,0x00200000,1,1,WMM2FILT.dll,
BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00200000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.6002.18496
MPEG Video Decoder,0x40000001,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
WDM Streaming Tee/Splitter Devices:
Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000
Video Compressors:
WMVideo8 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMVideo9 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
MSScreen 9 encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
DV Video Encoder,0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6001.18000
MJPEG Compressor,0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6002.18533
Cinepak Codec by Radius,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
Logitech Video (I420),0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
Intel IYUV codec,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
Microsoft RLE,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
Microsoft Video 1,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
VP60® Simple Profile ,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
VP61® Advanced Profile,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
Audio Compressors:
WM Speech Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
WMAudio Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
IMA ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
PCM,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
Microsoft ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
GSM 6.10,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
Messenger Audio Codec,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
CCITT A-Law,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
CCITT u-Law,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
MPEG Layer-3,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
Audio Capture Sources:
Stereo Mix (Realtek High Defini,0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6001.18000
Midi Renderers:
Default MidiOut Device,0x00800000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18533
Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18533
WDM Streaming Capture Devices:
Realtek HD Audio Line input,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000
Realtek HD Audio Mic input,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000
Realtek HD Audio Stereo input,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000
WDM Streaming Rendering Devices:
Realtek HD Audio output,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000
BDA Network Providers:
Microsoft ATSC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.0Thank you for the reply, you seem to know what you're on about.
When I go to color managment in the first tab, devices, where it says profiles associated with this device it is empty, and 'use my settings for this device' is unticked. It says device at the top and mine says 'Display: Generic Pnp Monitor - Intel(R) 82945G Express Chipset Family'.
I did try to set up my monitor and had the .icc file for it in that list that pops up when I tick use my settings and click add, and I think I did set the profile to be the one for my monitor. I can't remember exactly how I did it and where I get that .icc file from, I've been through so many settings and websites trying to fix this.
It's not like I've recently changed any hardware or anything or my monitor, I was on photoshop one minute and it worked fine, then the next it just didn't. It's so strange because all I was doing at the time was using photoshop and I don't understand how it can go from working fine to all these problems with graphics and the banding. It's so confusing.
I can noticeably see banding on that image. It is still a gradient and smooth to a degree, but there is obvious lines of colour differences, and a harsher line on the outside.
Is that smooth for you? For me there is very obvious banding, especially at the top on the white on black.
I just don't know what else to do. I've tried everything I can think of, and spent hours upon hours on google. I've even tried a system restore to put it back to how it was when it was working perfectly, but it's still the same. I tried it on another monitor, just plug and play, and it was the same. Is there an easy way to install a monitor properly so that it should in theory work perfect? Because you're talking about the monitor profile, but with the second one I tried to test it all I did was plug it in and it was still the same. I've even tried it on my tv, and as I remember I think it was less noticeable, but then again that might be because of my tv settings because my tv is quite dark.
Just clueless as to what else to do now. I don't want to go out and buy a new computer for £100's over this, as I don't really have the funds to do so but I need a computer so the only option would be to sell my new iphone that I only got last week! Which I obviously don't want to do. That's how desperate I am to fix this though. -
Who should do rgb-CMYK conversion - designers or printers?
I have been having a very interesting discussion on a previous thread in response to problems with the colour conversion from rgb to CMYK using InDesign and the resulting unsatisfactory colours in the final magazine delivered by my printers.
This has raised a number of issues and led me to further research. I would like to air these for a wider debate hence this post.
Perceptive readers will note from my spelling of colour, that I am English and indeed I work out of the UK. I am a historian, writer, photographer and editor. These days it is as a full time freelance but for a long time I was part time when I helped my partner publish a specialist sports magazine.
We started it a long time ago, in the days when you sent a typesetter galleys of type and photos and agreed on a layout. Our typesetters migrated to Pagemaker and we went with them. They and we were PC based and we still are, which is a bit of an anomaly in the design world.
Creating the text in Word was easy enough but the images remained a problem before digital cameras. We had a scanner but it was a flat bed scanner and created rgb images. The printers needed they said CMYK images then only available using cylindrical professional quality scanners. So there was a period when we paid the printers to scan the images for us, from the original photos, paying per print.
One of our small amateur publishing team was a well known professional photographer, so we started out with some high quality images but even so the scanned results, as they appeared in print, were patchy. I particularly remember one feature, covering a major international event where we had been supplied with high quality transparencies by a top class sports photographer and we duly passed on to the printers to scan. The results were clearly out of focus and the photographer was enraged and said he would not work for us again.
Of course we got proofs but they were low resolution in general and when we queried the quality of any image, we were invariably told that the proof did not reflect the final quality image as it would be printed. Trouble was it often did.
We ourselves continued to strip out costs from the magazine and eventually one of our team went on a series of Pagemaker courses and got some hands on experience working next to our former typesetter who was coming up for retirement. We took over the design and found a sympathetic new printer, down the road, also familiar with Pagemaker where we could pop over to look at the proofs, and get a second scan if the first was not OK. All went happily along for quite a few years. The sports magazine got sold and then I got a contract to edit a magazine dealing with the historic environment. By now digital photography had come along but we simply supplied hard copy prints (we use a lot of historical images) or digital images to the printers, with the Pagemaker files and they did the conversion. This routine stayed in place for a few more years and then the owner of the printers sold up and retired.
We found a new printers', a short run magazine specialist who agreed to accept our Pagemaker files (by now 6.5) although they were primarily Quark and Apple based. They did have a handful of PC clients and kept one PC for proofing their work. We continued to send the new printers Pagemaker files for printing and included the source images in case they needed to be redone. It quickly became apparent that the new printers worked down to a price rather than up to a quality and a fast turn around was the main aim. Conversations with their chief designer were perfunctory but because we had a lot of Pagemaker expertise we did not need a lot of support. We were under pressure to move to InDesign and it was probably time anyway.
Around two years ago matters can to a head with a font problem. This turned out to be a known issue with Pagemaker but resolving it caused problems with the printers, who said we had to upgrade to InDesign and it would go away. We were also assured that if we did so, and supplied them with a .pdf from InDesign, we could get a guaranteed result. We were told not to send them any more source images for comparison but to provide CMYK images. How we converted them was up to us.
Our designer went on several InDesign courses but they dealt with the design process and differences from Pagemaker. Getting to a .pdf was the target, not balancing colour thereafter. That was considered the role of the printer and his workflow press press processes.
When we needed to export our first .pdf from InDesign, the chief designer called up our designer and talked him through it. The importance of compatible profiles and presets was never raised. We have never been given any written information by the printers on .pdf presets or profiles we might need to set up at our end. As explained in my earlier thread, we are now required to submit all our images already converted to CMYK and this has caused and continues to cause, problems with the colour balance, in general the final result has too much magenta in it. Matters came to a head with the latest issue.
We are in talks with the printers to resolve this but it seems the chief designer has now left and not been replaced. We have asked if they can do the colour conversion to CMYK for us and the answer has been a definitive "No". Approaches to other printers has met witha standard salesman's response that all we need to provide is a .pdf from InDesign and they will do the rest. All require CMYK images.
It seems to me in all this saga, that the printing community has been busy de-skilling and downsizing and putting responsibilities back onto the end user wwho may not be experienced enough in the area of prepress and colour, to understand the issues involved.
So the question then arises, why can't the printers do the rgb to CMYK conversion anymore? Our printers maintain they are not able to accept any work which requires them to do this. But reading around the subject it seems there are printers who are moving to handling the rgb conversions for their customers "late binding rgb workflow" I think it is called. This is a link to a very interesting article about it in Print Media Management (I assume I can put links here). http://www.printmediamag.co.uk/technical-articles/205.aspx
What does anyone else think about this as a concept?Just after the turn of the century I was working for a large-format output service. ID had just been released, but nobody used it, and Quark 4 was state of the art. Color management was a "new" concept to everyone I knew.
One of our vendors sold us paper with the promise that they could provide profiles for every stock to match our HP plotter (not that I think we would have necessarily, at that point, understood how to use them). They never managed to do that, and we never managed to match color from the same file on glossy and matte papers. Nor were we able to reliably match color that we saw on screen or in a customer's inkjet or laser proof without making test strips and using five or six times the paper in trial and error adjustments as it took to make a single poster the customer ordered. It was ridiculous, and expensive, and it convinced me that I needed to learn at least the basics of color management. Shortly after I left that job and went freelance.
I switched to InDesign partly because it actually handled color management better than Quark in those days (and may still -- I've never looked back and stopped buying upgrades at 6.5), and I read as much as I could (Real World Color Management from Peachpit Press is an EXCELLENT and easy to understand primer). I also found a local printer for offset where the prepress manager understands CM and profiling, and was willing to talk (we're now good friends), and I also found another large format service where the staff was CM literate. I use a colorimeter to calibrate and profile my monitor, I use the output profiles they recommend and the export settings they ask for, and what I see in print from these vendors "matches my screen as close as dammit," to use the OP's words.
The owner of the offset printery said something I found flattering, but a little shocking, the last time I went for a press check -- I supply the best color in files that need the least amount of adjustment on press of anyone they print for. My attitude is if the print is off at make-ready, it means my numbers are off, and that was my fault. I usually complain the reds aren't bright enough, then let the pressman convince me that if I tweak the reds too much I'll lose the blues and to have confidence that things will fall into place when the ink dries because his measure ink density numbers are where they should be. He's always right, by the way.
Is this shop unusual? Maybe a little for my neck of the woods, but there are plenty of them out there with the same dedication to keeping up with technology at the pre-press end, and the knowledge and experience with putting ink on paper and a commitment to quality and service, so you should be able to find someone almost anywhere. And size is not necessarily an indicator -- this printer is a mom-and-pop shop with two presses, a folder, and a half-dozen employees. Dad has been in the print business for about 40 years and knows only what's rubbed off about color management, but he knows about presses and ink and paper and what will work. The oldest son is the prepress tech, and he's a complete geek, and either one of them will talk to anyone, and wish more of their clients would take the time to ask questions about the printing process and file preparation, and how they can improve the quality of both what comes in and what goes back out. -
Uploaded image colours different to photoshop
Hi, I've never had this experience before, however I started using lightroom 3 and photoshop CS4, and the colour calibration from photoshop to uploading is completely different. The only way past it is I've found to screen dump it, then save it as a png, yet the colours are still very distraughted .
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs177.snc3/20451_1239212413707_1031169870_305 66108_2408780_n.jpg
image 2 (saved as a high quality jpeg from the TIFF):
http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs197.snc3/20451_1238513876244_1031169870_305 64537_3460636_n.jpg
image 2 (saved as a screen dump as a png)
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs197.snc3/20451_1239215293779_1031169870_305 66113_7213148_n.jpg
Slightly better then the last but the colours are still completely wrong. The colours are fine when I send the picture over by email to someone, the colours are also fine in programs like word, paint and fax viewer (which you would expect to have no colour correction).
For the first image I showed, I combined it together, then I cropped it, saved it as a jpeg, and it still had the distraughted colours, I had to save it in png. I can't directly save it as a png because the colours are still distraugted :/
All browsers I've tried have done it, as on my friends computer. We've tried Firefox, chrome, internet explorer and oprah, ff on linux also.
Photos have been 16 bit modified to 8 bit, however, I've done that plenty of times in the past and its made no difference to the colours. 2nd image is 16 bit png and still weird :/
I've also tried to upload them to about 5 differnet sites, (facebook, devientart, flickr, imageshack & photo.net gallery). Attachments also do not look fine (however attachments for other sites do :/ *is very stumped*
Please help. *note, 1st image was edited in lightroom > cs4 > cs3*
Thank youBoth images are RGB, I think it might be something to do wiht lightroom, since when I import it into lightroom to CS4 save it and then go into CS3. Colour space is RGB, and both pictures have been converted into 8 bit, however, wihtout the conversion, they still have the desaturated colours.
Before I was using Adobe CS3 and the in built RAW photo editor, which has been fine. Ever since I've been using lightroom / CS4 combination (I switched both programs at the exact same time), its been a problem. However some images have a greater effect then others (for black and white you hardly notice).
Would it have something to do with the rendering mode in lightroom? Since I do not have the correct graphics drivers to render in CS4 because my fan doesn't work in my GPU...its holding on till I get a new one, barely... -
Colour change in identically exported PDFs: InDesign CS5 to CS6
Artwork turns out with a greener hue in a PDF Print document exported using InDesign CS6 trial software that has ruined a whole print run.
This catalogue has been printed in past years using CS4 and CS5 software, each time the colours in the exported PDF proof, PDF Print file and InDesign files being accurate and matching perfectly.
This time I used a trial of InDesign CS6 - Importing the same mother file as previous years and working on the document. When exporting the document however, despite using identical settings to export PDF files in the past, the exported PDFs turn out with a greener hue than the previous CS5 PDFs. I trialed a few different kinds of colour conversions in the PDF export window (i.e. 'no conversion' to 'convert to destination - RGB') just to see what happened - and all turned out with the same result. The colour change is small but this was exxaggerated at print and as a result the colours
looked drastically different from the catalogue the year before. Printing aside, (as it's a whole other ballgame), it came down to this slight PDF colour change.
I'm wondering if anyone can help explain this - does CS6 handle colour exporting differently to CS5?Hi Eugene,
Looking up the settings, they say the following:
InDesign CS5: Unsynchronised "settings are not synchronised for consistent colour" (odd; CS5 version is where the file exported with accurate colours)
InDesign CS6: Synchronised "using the same colour settings for consistent colour management" (CS6 version exported with a colour change)
Another thing I've realised that might be an issue:
The product images are still in RGB format (supplied by the photographer), where everything else in the artwork is in CMYK format. I've run a test export where I've converted everything to CMYK and exported it to a PDF.
The results:
InDesign CS5: Same colours consistently on both PDFs with RGB images and with all CMYK images.
InDesign CS6: Green hue across PDF with RGB images in it, Correct colours in PDF with all CMYK images.
So is this where the problem lies? The CS6 software having Synchronised colour settings shows a colour change when RGB photos are exported to PDF?
Let me know your thoughts... -
Hi there,
Please help! I have been asked by a client to design a leaflet for his business, it's pretty standard and he wanted colours that are used in his l
His logo was designed in Photoshop and I asked for the original file but he only had a high res jpeg and a flattened PSD. I asked for the Pantone or CMYK values but was just given web values so I colour matched the colours used in the logo and transported the jpeg into InDesign and just carried on laying the leaflet out as I normally would using the CMYK colour match values. I sent him the proof and he said he wanted the colours changed as they weren't bright enough. When I looked at the Photoshop file again he was right, the original colour is much brighter. Changed the colour profile I was working in (Which was RGB) to CMYK. The colour in the logo immediately looked brighter so I matched that colour and it matched to an RGB colour so I changed all the colours to the RGB colour (even though I wanted to work in CMYK) which looked much more like the original logo colour.
However when I proof the colours it turns back to the duller colour. Does anyone know what is causing this problem? I have never encountered it before? Is it because it was designed using web values or am i working in the wrong profile? How do I change it so that the colour looks the same on the print document as it does on the PSD logo?
I need a quick turn around on this and am out of my depth at the moment! I have just set up Freelance as I was made redundant from my last job and I haven't ever encountered this before. Hoping one of you knows how to help.....I'm working in CC
Looking forward to hearing your replies,
Many thanks in advanceIt's difficult to recommend anything without seeing the file. If possible, attach the .psd to your post. InDesign has application color settings. If you have Adobe Bridge, you can synch all of your application color settings there. I am concerned about an obvious shift where it is obvious to the customer. He says the business cards match, but in reality they may not. The way things are going, he will continue to run into problems matching color further on even if he does business with someone else. When you open the PSD in Photoshop, assign the Adobe RGB there and save it under a new name so you know in the furture it is Adobe RGB. Forget the JPEG ( use it for web only ). I am assuming the file is PSD because it needs to be PSD for whatever reason. In InDesign, set your CMYK workspace to an appropriate profile ( like SWOP Coated v2 ). Now, if the file is so dulled down that it is noticeable, then you could adjust the "CMYK" curves to brighten it a bit. This is an excellent opportunity to gain some more work ( if possible ) with this client. That will require educating him/her in the proper logo production techniques. No way should a logo be produced in Photoshop and especially RGB color space. You've been in the business long enough to know what the proper procedures are. If they are unwilling to invest in a rock solid solution, then it may be better to reject their business and move on. Client is basicly blaming you for their mistakes. The frustration is that the client likes monitor color which is an illusion. At this point, client has to be more cooperative and lead you to their business card printer so you can investigate what they received from said client as a file and in what color space using what profile. If printer accepted an RGB based file, ask them for their workflow requirements and file parameters. This should give you a little more background so you can beging to build a solid foundation for said client's corporate identity. If their vendor, along with themselves, refuse to cooperate, then forget them. It's in their best interest to supply you with everything you need to accomplish whatever outlandish color they were able to achieve.
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