Compare 'Folder tags' to imported Keyword Tags

I have asked questions about thumbnails in PSE11 that aren't being correctly displayed ,but I have yet to get any answers.
I though perhaps I should breakdown the problem into easier component to see if I can get to understand just what is going on & be able to fix the problem myself.
For instance if I open the 'My Folders' I see a list of file names that correspond to those 'imported keyword tags.' If I take a folder called China I see the thumbnails & when I hover the mouse I see that it has tags China,Beijing area & my wife's name. If I were then to go to the imported Keyword Tags & I can see a tag 'Dubai'. Just to see what happens I drag the picture to the Dubai tag. This is accepted. Because if I go back to the original tag I now see tags China,Beijing area,& my wife's name as well as Dubai.
If I go the see the folder 'Dubai' in my folders the picture doesn't appear. Why not? This is just a crazy experiment but I can't make out what happened. Any Ideas?

Hi,
Photoshop Elements does not enforce a direct relationship between Folders and Tags - they are different ways to view your images.
If you start by showing all media and then select a folder, you will get the all the images in that folder shown.
If you start by showing all media and then select a tag, you will see all the images with that tag.
If you start by showing all media, then select a folder and then select a tag, you get all the images in that folder that have the selected tag.
A tag can be applied to any image irrespective of which folder it is in.
For instance, if you have two folders called Holiday 2012 & Holiday 2013 with photos of your holidays for each of the years and in each year you have a photo of the same monument, you could tag those photos with the monument name. Later you could view all the holiday photos for a particular year or you could show the photos of the monument for the two years.
It is possible to create tags from the folder name but the relationship is not maintained.
The fact that you talk about "Imported keyword tags" suggests that you entered the tags outside of Photoshop elements before you imported them. If you had a previous version of Photoshop elements, the normal approach is to convert the old catalog. That way the tags would show up in the original structure rather than be "imported".
I hope that the above helps - forgive me if I stated what you already knew.
Brian

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I have a similar situation. In upgrading from Elements 7 to 11 all my keyword tags are lost; both in the keyword panel and the tags on each of my imported pictures. I didn't install the Elements 11 I had a tech do it when I took my computer in for other issues, so I'm not sure of any of the specific steps taken when this was done. Any way to get these back short of "tagging" each picture again?
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The PSE 12 Organizer and LR 5 use different file formats for exporting and importing keyword hierarchies. PSE uses XML format, while LR 5 uses a tab-separated format. If you're a programmer or technically minded, you could convert from one to the other using your favorite scripting language.
But the approach suggested by dj_paige can be modified to accomplish what you want without scripting, by copying the keyword hierarchy from the "upgraded" LR catalog that was created from your PSE catalog to your "good" LR catalog:
1. Make a manual backup of your "good" LR catalog: Lightroom Help | Back up a catalog.
2. In LR, open the catalog that you created previously by upgrading (converting) the PSE catalog -- you can usually get to that catalog by doing File > Open Recent.
3. Go to grid view in the Library by doing Window > Library followed by View > Grid (usually you're already in Library grid view, but just in case...)
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5. You should see the keyword hierarchy from your PSE catalog. If you don't, stop and post a screen shot of the entire LR screen.
6. Do Metadata > Export Keywords to export those keywords as a LR-format text file.
7. Open your "good" LR catalog by doing File > Open Recent.
8. Do Metadata > Import Keywords and select the file you exported in step 6.
9. All the keywords that were exported in step 6 will be added to the current catalog, and there will be duplicate keywords if there were already keywords of the same name in the catalog. Those new keywords will not be attached to any existing photos in the current catalog.

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is there a way to import tags from PSE 12
The PSE 12 Organizer and LR 5 use different file formats for exporting and importing keyword hierarchies. PSE uses XML format, while LR 5 uses a tab-separated format. If you're a programmer or technically minded, you could convert from one to the other using your favorite scripting language.
But the approach suggested by dj_paige can be modified to accomplish what you want without scripting, by copying the keyword hierarchy from the "upgraded" LR catalog that was created from your PSE catalog to your "good" LR catalog:
1. Make a manual backup of your "good" LR catalog: Lightroom Help | Back up a catalog.
2. In LR, open the catalog that you created previously by upgrading (converting) the PSE catalog -- you can usually get to that catalog by doing File > Open Recent.
3. Go to grid view in the Library by doing Window > Library followed by View > Grid (usually you're already in Library grid view, but just in case...)
4. Make sure the Keyword List panel is showing on the right by doing Window > Panels > Keyword List.
5. You should see the keyword hierarchy from your PSE catalog. If you don't, stop and post a screen shot of the entire LR screen.
6. Do Metadata > Export Keywords to export those keywords as a LR-format text file.
7. Open your "good" LR catalog by doing File > Open Recent.
8. Do Metadata > Import Keywords and select the file you exported in step 6.
9. All the keywords that were exported in step 6 will be added to the current catalog, and there will be duplicate keywords if there were already keywords of the same name in the catalog. Those new keywords will not be attached to any existing photos in the current catalog.

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First, the best way to move to another computer and upgrade at the same time is to use the backup / restore process:
http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-elements/kb/backup-restore-move-catalog-photoshop.html
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If you mean you want to see the tags ordered according to the location of each person in your photo, left to right for instance, you understand you'll have to find a way to enter the visual order somewhere...
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> I can delete keywords from individual photos but if more than on photo is highlighted, the keyword is removed from the first file only. Is this a bug or am I missing something?
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Thanks for the info! I wonder what the maximum for keywords is? I am not sure that's the problem here since they did work until this week, but I will suggest the hierarchical option to the user.
Is it possible that they keyword list got corrupted somehow? Is there a way to repair it?
thanks again

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