Compare output quality with DVD Studio Pro 3 and iDVD 08?

Can anyone one tell me if there is a difference in output quality between the new iDVD 08 and DVD Studio Pro 3. I have not bought DVD Studio Pro 4 as it is not available as a separate purchase. I am wondering if I should bother with iDVD 08 if the output is the same or less than Studio 3.
Thanks, Ed

I'll add this. I came to the forum this evening on this very subject. I have been using IDVD for years producing promotional DVD's that have been lauded by all my customers. I recently popped for FCP and DVD-SP to improve the quality of my productions. Yet, here I am, trying to figure out why DVD-SP is delivering terrible artifacts on high speed movement in the video. This is regardless of the settings for the encoder. They're better at the higher settings, but they're still there. Now I think (hope to find a different answer here on the forum) I have to encode with Compressor, re-import the track and re-link all 80 of the chapter links. The same video showed absolutely none of these artifacts when encoded in iDVD. The finished product looked identical to hooking up my miniDV camera to the television. The flexibility of menu construction in DVD-SP is amazing, but Apple needs to scrap the fancy built-in encoder and just use whatever is working in iDVD.

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I have been trying to obtain a DVD output with DVD Studio Pro where moderate speed pans don't jerk. Oddly, I get better results using iDVD. The image in iDVD isn't as sharp, but the quality of movement (pans, tilts) is smoother. My program length is only 20 minutes and I have used compressor to encode outside of DVD SP. The compressor setting was for DVD, 60 mins, best quality. Why is it that a consumer software such as iDVD yields better results in this aspect? What am I doing wrong in DVD SP that results in less than professional results. All input appreciated. Thanks in advance

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Wow - wikipedia link is a superb article, but a tad geeky...
That is why I refused to understand it, I am not a geek and no one will convince me otherwise... even if every new application and computer released by Apple is like catnip for me

Quality of DVD Studio Pro using Compressor vs iDVD

Sorry to repeat the question below, which I have also posted under DVD SP...I thought that perhaps someone watching Compressor would also have input.
I have been trying to obtain a DVD output with DVD Studio Pro where moderate speed pans don't jerk. Oddly, I get better results using iDVD. The image in iDVD isn't as sharp, but the quality of movement (pans, tilts) is smoother. My program length is only 20 minutes and I have used compressor to encode outside of DVD SP. The compressor setting was for DVD, 60 mins, best quality. Why is it that a consumer software such as iDVD yields better results in this aspect? What am I doing wrong in DVD SP that results in less than professional results. All input appreciated. Thanks in advance

Pamela
hy is it that a consumer software such as iDVD yields better results in this aspect? What am I doing wrong in DVD SP that results in less than professional results.
You are messing around with Compressor settings . . . I guess!
Hope that helps !
Alberto

DVB-C recorded DVDs to Final Cut Pro to DVD Studio Pro and Flash - how?

As a TV journalist I am recording my works with my DVB-C Receiver and a DVD-Harddisc-Recorder from LG. The movies are stored on the harddisc and I burn them to DVDs in order to work with the files on my computer. What progrograms do I have to use in order to get file out of the DVD-vobs, that Final Cut Pro can read an work with. DVB-C is MPEG-encoded, right? But I don’t want to loose quality and don’t want to encode the material several times? In Final Cut I want to get rid of commerials and cut severel movies together that were broadcasted on several days. After that I want to get two differt files: 1. A flash movie form my website and 2. A file form my archive. With those files I want to complile DVDs with DVD Studio Pro for my customers later. Can anyone please give me a good and professional workflow to solve this common problem? Thanks a lot.

What progrograms do I have to use in order to get file out of the DVD-vobs, that Final Cut Pro can read an work with
MPEG Streamclip http://www.squared5.com/svideo/mpeg-streamclip-mac.html
-DH

TS3968 This also affect DVD Studio Pro and compressor.

This also affect DVD Studio Pro and compressor, that were useless after upgrading to Snowleopard. Prokit 7 solved the problem. How come it doesn't come automatically with software update? Lost two hours on a crashed DVD project and looking for this very simple solution. Love you Apple, but this time you let me down...
After updating to Snowleopard, FCP comes up with a warning about unsupported enablerfiles during start-up. Prokit 7 didn't solve that problem. Anybody...?

Right on, Eric.
I'm a devoted Windows man, but I must say that DVDSP is the best DVD authoring software I've tried so far.
As far as compressor goes, it depends what program you are exporting from and for what purpose. There are many options in there and I for instance found out that using something like a Photo JPEG compression rather than a DV PAL setting for a project that was all in DVD PAL gave a better output.
Compressor is a pretty big program and by trying different things out, you can probably find what you need.
Sounds like there could be a problem with your computer if everything comes out as crappy as you say...?
Good luck figuring it out or make your mpegs on PC's TMPGEnc. (He-he... )
4 x 2.5 GHz PowerPC G5 Mac OS X (10.4.8) 4.5 GB DDR2 SDRAM

DVD Studio pro vs iDVD: DVD Quality?

Do the DVDs made by DVD studio Pro look better than those from iDVD?
I have very good looking HD videos, made in iMovie: which look quite good as QT movies, but quality deteriorates a fair amount when iDVD makes it into a DVD. looking for better DVD product. Will I notice a difference with DVD Studio pro. kinda expensive if doesn't improve quality of final product.
roger

If you use the default compressor built into DVDSP it will probably be very similar to iDVD.
If you buy Final Cut Studio to get DVDSP you will also get an application called Compressor that allows for very high quality HD to DVD compression if you customize the presets.

Are Compressor files compatible with DVD Studio Pro?

I am buying Final Cut Pro X and Compressor, but I am working on a school project that needs to be finished in DVD Studio Pro. Would the compressed files be compatible with DVD Studio Pro even though FCP7 and FCPX are not compatible?

Yes. Compressor 4 (or any version) will create the DVD-compliant files that are used in DVDSP.
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Lion kills SoundTrack Pro, DVD Studio Pro and Color

After installing Lion on my cloned boot drive FCP 7.0.3 runs but SoundTrack pro, DVD Studio Pro and Color return an error message indicating Lion can't run PowerPC programs. They also have a white slashed circle over them indicating they aren't compatible.
This wasn't a widely advertised restriction of Lion prior to its release.
I'm thankful I have a fully operating Snow Leopard installation.

I don't know why you would have the PowerPC-only versions installed on an intel machine? It's very weird, because they should be Universal. This may mean that you were running those apps using Rosetta under Snow Leopard, but Rosetta isn't installed with Lion. You should just re-install from the FCS3 DVD and the proper Intel versions will be placed in your Applications folder.
I just launched every FCS3 app under Lion and they all work fine, except for Cinema Tools (which unexpectedly quit.)

HT1338 i purchased dvd studio pro and im trying to install it but when i go to click continue it gives me this "you cant open the application gestalt tool becasue powerpc applications are no longer supported" what does that mean and how can i fix this ?

i purchased dvd studio pro and im trying to install it but when i go to click continue it gives me this "you cant open the application gestalt tool becasue powerpc applications are no longer supported" what does that mean and how can i fix this ?

I note this information from Wikipedia: "DVD Studio Pro was a high-end software tool published by Apple Inc. to allow users to create DVD masters to be sent out for replication at production houses. Its tight integration with other Apple applications allows users to take Final Cut Pro and Motion projects and render them into the DVD format without encoding to intermediary formats. This streamlines the production workflow and reduces overhead."
If that is your intent, finding a substitute program that will run on your Mac may not be as efficient. Others can advise you on alternatives, or you can post a new thread specifically with that question.
BTW: what Mac and what version of OS X?
If it is important to you to continue to use DVD Studio Pro, consider the option of installing Snow Leopard (with Rosetta) into Parallels on your Mac:
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Full Snow Leopard installation instructions are here.

Burning a Final cut Pro X Project with DVD Studio Pro

Hi,
A project edited in Final Cut Pro X and Compressed with Compressor 4, can you then burn to disc with DVD Studio Pro?
I have DVD Studio Pro on my system but when I burn the project to disc using DVD Studio Pro it crashes all the time.
I'm wondering if DVD Studio Pro is not compatable with a 64 bit system?
Advise is appreacated.
Barry

Thanks Tony that did it, I was using Burn but when I went to Build/Format the disc burned as it should, thanks
Barry

Closed captioning issues DVD studio Pro and workflow

So I have been trying to attach a .scc file to a dvd for the optioin of closed captioning. (for 2 dyas now) I did figure out a workflow to make it happen but all the suggested workflows online and in the book did not work for me and I have no idea why.
I have a HD sequence 1440x1080. It has some old SD video in it as well.
The only way I was able to get a DVD with closed captioning was this workflow:
Go to HD sequence and select all in timeline so it is highlighted. Command (apple) C so it is copied.
Go to File> New Sequence.
Control click on new sequence and go to settings.
under general tab make sure that it is set to 720x480 with NTSC (3:2) chosen from the drop down menu
Pixel aspect is set to NTSC CCIR 601/DV and that anamorphic IS checked
dominance : lower (even)
frame rate 29:97
QT vid settings DV/DVCPRO-NTSC
audio 48 khz 16-bit channel grouped.
click OK
Then open SD sequence and command (apple) V to paste.
At this point I noticed that the SD video on the new SD timeline was expanded or blown up. I had to control click each SD shot in the timeline (or do one at a time) and control click> remove attributes. It gave me a few options to click and when those in dark font are clicked it will set your SD shots back to normal.
I tried Hightlighting the entire SD seauence and changing the attributes, but it effected the HD video also so it was easier to just adjust the SD shots in the SD timeline/sequence.
Now that everything was normal in my SD sequence, I exported out a QT video.
I opened up DVD Studio Pro and put my QT file in it. Went to DVD Studio Pro preferences in the top left corner and made sure that MPEG-2 SD tab was open
clicked 4:3 aspect ratio
Start was 00:00:00 etc.
and for me drop frame was clicked. (my video was shot drop framed)
click OK
Click Graphical view (or in outline view it would be tracks and video name) Click on Green "TV" looking item (for me I wanted the first play on it)
Then look in your inspector for the tab called "other"
Click on "other" tab and then where it says file.... click on choose. Navigate to where your .scc file is and hit ok
Burn your DVD and test it in QT and on a DVD player/TV to make sure the CC optioin turns off and on.
That is how I got it to work, but it was changed to a DV format and has some pixelation.
I read where many folks run their exported QT file from FCP in HD and open it in compressor and change it's size there and make a mpeg 2..Some send the video to compressor from the timeline to make a mpeg 2... some add the .scc file in compressor.... some run their SD file through compressor and change to mpeg 2. Personally I had NO LUCK in doing anything in compressor (after running 2 days of tests) converting to a mpeg 2 in the DVD folder settings,... in using any of the program and elementary streams under the formats folder. NOTHING worked with any type of mpeg 2 AS well as adding the .scc file to the video in either compressor or in DVD studio Pro.
WHY? Why did none of that compressor workflow work? Why didn't adding the .scc file work in DVD studio pro?
Anyone have any ideas?

You have two problems.
Converting your video to SD
Getting the .scc file to play nice
1st problem
I would export your HD sequence(self contained not QT conversion).
Many recommend and have had much success using Compressor to do the down convert(frame controls all set to best).
I prefer using FC to do the down convert. I find it more consistent. This adds a step but still prefer it. I re-import the HD file I just exported into my project and then create an appropriate SD sequuence. Since your HD sequence displays 16x9 you will want to create a SD anamorphic sequence (I do 720x486 but you can do 480 too). Add the HD file to the new SD seq and then render. Export an SD file and then convert for DVD.
2nd problem
I have not had success adding the .scc file in Compressor. It should work but OE and/or other factors have never allowed me to get this to work properly.
The .scc file is presumably made from your sequence time code or possibly the QT export TC depending on how you sent it out and what you got back. The .scc should be based on the sequence TC. By default tracks in DSP are set to zero based TC which will not reference the TC associated with the original sequence TC which was used to make your .scc file. You can change this by right-clicking(control-click) on the time area in the track and you should see an option for asset-based timecode. Once you have changed this try importing the scc file.

"Incompatible format" with DVD Studio Pro

I'm trying to put together a DVD with DVD Studio Pro. When I transfer the movie into the "track 1" area in DVD Studio it says "Incompatible format". I've tried going under "preferences", then under the "project" tab and selecting both HD DVD and SD DVD but neither setting makes a difference, it still will not accept the clip. I've gone into the "General" tab under preferences and tried setting the resolution to the same as the movie file and still nothing. Does anybody have any suggestions as to what might be going wrong?
Just to let you know as well, I have a smaller file that I've tried inserting into DVD Studio and it seems to work fine. Both this smaller file(891MB) and the actual movie that I'm trying to add(22.1GB) have the exact same attributes when checked in QuickTime using "command + i"
Here's the info for the movie file I'm trying to add:
Self contained QuickTime file from Final Cut that is about 2 hours long.
Apple HDV 1080i60, 1440 x 1080 (1888 x 1062), Millions
16-bit Integer (Little Endian), Stereo, 48.000 kHz
Normal Size:1920x1080 Current Size:1920x1080 (actual)
Here's the info for the small video that works:
Self contained QuickTime file from Final Cut that is about 4 minutes and 39 seconds long
Apple HDV 1080i60, 1440 x 1080 (1888 x 1062), Millions
16-bit Integer (Little Endian), Stereo, 48.000 kHz
Normal Size:1920x1080 Current Size:1920x1080 (actual)
Any help is appreciated!

Your best bet is to encode the video outside of DVD SP to an m2v stream. Are you making a SD DVD or HD DVD?

DVD Studio Pro and Motion won't work

I posted this in the Tiger forum and didn't get a solution so I'm trying here.
After installing Tiger DVD Studio Pro and Motion quit working.
Both applications open (in the menu bar at least), but neither one will open all of its windows and nothing happens when I click on anything in the windows that do open. Nothing's frozen (the menus still respond), but there are no windows to work in.
I booted into Panther from my Backup drive and DVD SP works, but Motion won't even startup.
I'm hurtin' here. Can anyone help?
I'm using DVD SP v2.0.5 and Motion v1.0.1 on a Dual 1.42 PowerPC G4 with 1.5 GB DDR SDRAM and an ATI RADEON 9600 Mac Edition video card.
Dual 1.42 PowerPC G4 Mac OS X (10.4.4) 1.5 GB DDR SDRAM and ATI RADEON 9600 Mac Edition

Got an answer in the DVD SP forum. Look for the same topic there if you need it.

Is Compressor compatible with DVD Studio Pro?

I am buying Final Cut Pro X and Compressor, but I am working on a school project that needs to be finished in DVD Studio Pro. Would the compressed files be compatible with DVD Studio Pro even though FCP7 and FCPX are not compatible?

Thanks so much. I've been sort of panicking here and Google has not been my friend.

Duplicating DVDs made with DVD Studio Pro 4.2.2

I cannot duplicate dvds made with DVD Studio Pro. I could with my prior version but since upgrading, I am unable to. The duplicator says: Source and target size mismatch - or something like that. I have seen only one other complaint about this and they said to burn the dvd to the hard disc and copy from there. This did not work. Same error message comes up on the duplicator. I can't burn all these dvds one at a time!!!!! Any solutions out there?

Welcome to the discussions.
It is also good to include as much information about what you are using to help others see if they can be of assistance. I know it can be frustrating trying to finish up and something goes wrong. Some days many people reply, other times, such as the problem I have with connecting to background process after the last quick update, hardly anyone replies. I hope that someone might be able to offer assistance.
You say you have 4.2.2, not 4.1.2? I have not seen that update, is it for an intel model? I am still using a Dual G4 1.42 with 4.1.2.
Which duplicator are you using? It would be good to include that so those using that brand/model can replay.
Is the DVD you recorded on and the ones used for duplications the same brand/size/type?
While I know this can take a while, in a pinch, such as not, just keep DVDSP fired up and feeding your DVD burner.
I only have to do 6 to 8 copies at a time so I use my DVD burner from DVDSP or save the DVD as a disk image using Toast Titanium 8 and opened it in toast to duplicate via the DVD burner.
Please reply with more information and hopefully others can offer more help.

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