Compatible eSATA PCIe Card

Hi Gang
Back here again beginning to realize a familiar trend; many newer PCIe eSATA cards will not function in older G5 Dual Core with 10.4.11
New System Drive, 2 fresh OSX installs, no hardware modifications. 'No Sleep' options ALWAYS selected.
Relocated ALL 6 Drives to totally independent eSATA enclosures NO BRIDGE. All data thoroughly checked with Disk Warrior. Cables tight and secure.
Tried the Tempo SATA E2P, will not show up in Profiler (Specs show Mac Pro Only).
Tried both FirmTek SeriTek/2ME4-E & FirmTek SeriTek 2SE2-E. Will work for a while until system freezes, (Specs Vague). Tech Support Puzzled despite Firmware Flashes forward and backward. Freezes NEVER occur thru FW800.
Tried inexpensive 'Best Connectivity' Controller Card - Specs show compatible with OSX will not show up in Profiler.
OWC Speedy3G 2 port PCI-e SATA card - SOLD OUT
OWC NewerTech MAXPower eSATA 6G PCIe - 10.5 or later
Seems it's the same old story; back to searching for an older design card that might work.
Mike

You mentioned; 'cheap OWC eSata card' was that the 'Speedy3G'?
Yes, that's the one, not bootable, but...
Are you watching the Eagles?
Nope, I'm at work, as I am 12 hours a day 365+ days a year. (Don't ever go into Biz for yourself, your Boss can be a real hard nose!).
Is your your Quad water cooled?
Yes, I think all the Quads are.
Here's a non Raid, single drive test to the Voyager Quad interface test...
QuickBench™ 3.0 Test Results
©2000-2006 Intech Software Corp.
Test file created on Sunday, November 28, 2010 at 2:32:08 PM
Test Volume Name: WD1GBBlack
Test Volume Type: MacOS Extended
Test Volume Size: 931.388 Gigabytes
Test Volume Free Space: 452.862 Gigabytes
Allow Write Cache Purges: Enabled
32 KBytes 67.95 MB/Sec 14.901 MB/Sec 66.01 MB/Sec 30.440 MB/Sec
64 KBytes 81.86 MB/Sec 34.641 MB/Sec 29.237 MB/Sec 38.426 MB/Sec
128 KBytes 92.067 MB/Sec 44.476 MB/Sec 50.825 MB/Sec 30.460 MB/Sec
256 KBytes 88.908 MB/Sec 41.666 MB/Sec 95.445 MB/Sec 46.487 MB/Sec
512 KBytes 96.854 MB/Sec 48.114 MB/Sec 65.933 MB/Sec 84.815 MB/Sec
1024 KBytes 89.723 MB/Sec 65.837 MB/Sec 87.468 MB/Sec 79.481 MB/Sec
Extended Test Results:
Test Cycles: 1
Ext. Xfer Size Extended Read Extended Write
2 MBytes 67.458 MB/Sec 79.199 MB/Sec
3 MBytes 110.32 MB/Sec 75.683 MB/Sec
4 MBytes 111.33 MB/Sec 72.823 MB/Sec
5 MBytes 109.11 MB/Sec 40.182 MB/Sec
6 MBytes 113.39 MB/Sec 75.857 MB/Sec
7 MBytes 105.89 MB/Sec 35.990 MB/Sec
8 MBytes 101.80 MB/Sec 88.206 MB/Sec
9 MBytes 104.42 MB/Sec 80.977 MB/Sec
10 MBytes 109.20 MB/Sec 73.313 MB/Sec
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