Complete Clone of External Disk?

Hi,
I have 2 iMacs, one PPC and one intel both running leopard. The PPC iMac is about to die, and will not switch on (cannot get past the grey screen with the apple logo). I've connected the 2 computers together via firewire and used the dying iMac as a Firewire disk to access the data stored on it. How can I make a complete clone of the dying iMac so I don't lose all the files on it? I could just drag all the files to my intel imac, but that would not copy some hidden files and settings right?
If I use something like SuperDuper! or Carbon Copy cloner, that would not work right?, as it has to completely erase the target volume before it can make a copy. HELP!
Please help.
Thanks in advance
Message was edited by: Matt Lee

HELP!! It won't backup. The first step says : Failed to enable ownership on Macintosh HD. What can I do?
I tried again and this time, it says failed to mount "the name of the image file". When I view the log, it comes up with this message -
| 10:45:20 AM | Error | 2007-11-10 10:45:20.326 hdiutil[460:10b] Error loading /Library/Plug-ins/DiskImages/VirtualPCDiskImagePlugin.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Vir tualPCDiskImagePlugin: dlopen(/Library/Plug-ins/DiskImages/VirtualPCDiskImagePlugin.bundle/Contents/Ma cOS/VirtualPCDiskImagePlugin, 262): no suitable image found. Did find:
| 10:45:20 AM | Error | /Library/Plug-ins/DiskImages/VirtualPCDiskImagePlugin.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Vir tualPCDiskImagePlugin: mach-o, but wrong architecture
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    Anyhow that's the background to why I want to make a clone of the external disks in my possession. If for some reason, the external disk gets suddenly erased, I would like a copy somewhere in safekeeping so that I do not lose all my movies.
    How do I make a clone of an external disk?
    I will be using a MacBook Air (3.2) for this task. It has two USB ports. Can I use Carbon Copy Cloner to do this? Just choose a source disk (external disk I want to clone) and a destination disk (the external disk where I want it to be cloned to)?

    Many backup utilities like Carbon Copy Cloner and Super Duper can be used to clone drives.  They can also clone boot drive to make bootable clones.  They use "smart" backups in that they only update what has been changed from the previous backup.   That is what you need too since you intend to use USB which is not that fast.
    With CCC you can set up a task to start the backup automatically when you plug the backup in and it mounts.
    FWIW I use CCC to make daily backups of my disks (scheduled backups can be done by these utilities).

  • Sizing Backup, Bootable and Storage partitions on an External Disk

    I have iMac G5, 2 GB RAM, 1 TB HD with one partition currently holding about 140 GB, and a TB external disk. I want to use the external disk for three purposes: Bootable Partition, Time Machine Backup, Miscellaneous Storage.
    Apple advises matching the capacity of the Time Machine backup to that of the volume being backed up. My inclination is to limit the Backup volume to 500 GB, see how that works out and re-evaluate as HD use increases.
    Q1. As I understand, the bootable partition would be, at the minimum, a duplicate of all OS X (Leopard in the case of G5s) system and application software.
    Q2. Should it also include 3rd party apps? (yes?)
    Q3. Should it be a pristine installation that is independently kept up to date with all upgrades, but essentially unused unless an emergency arises? (yes?) Or is it okay to somehow sync it with my HD content? (this could copy a problem to just where you don't want it to be?)
    Since I will be using Time Machine to backup my HD, it does not seem that all the data files (e.g. iTunes Library) need to be included in the bootable partition.
    Q4. What are the correct choices for what goes into the bootable partition, including 3rd party apps and data?
    Q5. What process should be used for updating this software? Independent, parallel updates? (yes?)
    Q6. Are there any files that should be duplicated in this partition; for example, keychains are something you need - or would you get these from Time Machine too?
    Q7. Since the Time Machine backup resides on the same disk, it is possible to restore needed files from there. When Time Machine restores the system, does it put everything into the boot partition? (yes?)
    Q8. If so, since Disk Utility allows dynamic re-partitioning, I could use a limited space for the bootable partition and then re-allocate more space to it later if I wanted to run a fully restored version of the system off the external disk? (yes?)
    Q9. Does it make sense to separate the Miscellaneous Storage into a separate partition? (yes?) Or should should I use just one partition to hold the bootable stuff and the miscellaneous stuff? (no?)

    Mr. Cat wrote:
    Mostly agreeing with Kappy here, but a few additions.
    Apple advises matching the capacity of the Time Machine backup to that of the volume being backed up. My inclination is to limit the Backup volume to 500 GB, see how that works out and re-evaluate as HD use increases.
    That should be plenty, depending on how the 140 GB will grow. Our "rule of thumb" is, TM needs 2-3 times the space of the data it's backing-up. See #1 in the Frequently Asked Questions *User Tip,* also at the top of this forum.
    Q1. As I understand, the bootable partition would be, at the minimum, a duplicate of all OS X (Leopard in the case of G5s) system and application software.
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    Q5. What process should be used for updating this software? Independent, parallel updates? (yes?)
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    You select the destination disk/partition.
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    Yes, but be careful. You can only resize a partition by dragging the bottom in the diagram up or down; you can't move the top. Thus to expand a partition, you have to delete the one below it.
    Q9. Does it make sense to separate the Miscellaneous Storage into a separate partition? (yes?) Or should should I use just one partition to hold the bootable stuff and the miscellaneous stuff? (no?)
    They should each be separate. See #3 in the FAQ about the TM partition; and you'll also want the clone to be on it's own partition.
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  • Can I install Snow Leopard with an external disk drive?

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