Complex smart albums in Aperture

Hello,
I thought I saw a complex smart album in either Aperture or iPhoto which combined two sets of "opposing" criteria.
Example:
Any
Album name is "album1"
Album name is "album 2"
All
Names do not contain "word"
If I remeber correctly there was a clearly defined line in the Smart Album creation window.
Has anyone seen this as well

Hi Frank,
yes, you can combine several rules in a smart Filter or a Smart Album in Aperture, even with opposing criteria.
But this only works for rules using regular albums - I never succeeded, when I tried to reference a "Smart Album" in these rules.
Regards
Léonie
For example, this Smart album computes the difference album between two Aperture albums: All images in the Screensaver that are not in the gallery and are not rejected.
Added: But complex rules combining "Any" and "All" I have only seen in iTunes, not in Aperture; the only exeption I know of are keywords. You can have a toplevel combination of "any" or "all", and at the keywords level again a new combination.

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