Complicated (to me) Airport network question

Greetings:
I am running an Airport network with the following devices -
2 Airport Extremes in a WDS network
4 Airport Express(s) - 1 as a printer interface, 3 as Airtunes devices
Various ethernet devices connected to the base station routers
All working perfectly - then I get this problem.
Two days ago I added a Panasonic BL-C131A wireless Network Camera to the system.
It requires a port assignment and a static IP address.
Got it up and running perfectly. Ran for multiple hours without a problem.
Suddenly problems - became erratic, then unresponsive.
After a day of diagnosing the problem, I have discovered this:
If I restart the camera, it will connect wirelessly to the Airport and work perfectly until any other client joins the network. Then the problem occurs.
If I connect the camera to the Airport via ethernet cable, I do not get this problem. It only occurs when operating in the wireless mode.
I have contacted Panasonic customer support, they were helpful, but since the camera connects correctly and operates correctly when using ethernet access to the Airport, and the problem occurs only when using the wireless side of the Airport, they though it might be a problem or setting on the Airport system.
Any help, guidance, or advice you can give would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

This cannot be the final answer the Panasonic BL-C131A camera was working fine with a cheap wireless router that I had before the Airport Extreme. I cannot even get it to talk to AE router.
My Fujitsu tablet is also having problems cannot connect either.
My two Dell notebooks connect okay but they are slow.
Anybody else have any luck with the BL-C131A camera?
Thanks,
FBNRaider

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Excellent plan.
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Yes, but don't get confused about the second AirPort Extreme, as it would not be configured to "extend" a wireless network.....it would be configured to "create a wireless network" using the same wireless network name, security settings and password as the Time Capsule network. Configure the second Extreme in Bridge Mode.
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2. Is it possible to connect ("bridge") the two wireless routers and then place one router close to the printers and connect via USB. If yes, should the configuration be Airport to Linksys or Linksys to Airport?
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Complex question that I don't think I can answer all of...
Airport Extreme Base Station - can connect only one USB printer - no hub permitted.
Print Servers (other than Extreme/Express) - work great for postscript printers, but are problematic with non-postscript printers. Printing to print servers uses "standard" protocols. In OS X, the "standard" protocols are provided by CUPS, so they need cups-capable drivers on OS X. Brother is the Only non-postscript printer manufacturer so far to provide CUPS drivers. Many non-postscript printers can be made to work with third-party drivers (Gimp-Print is one of these), but most people are unsatisfied with print quality (if you want to print photos for example).
I think wireless bridging will work with the Airport BS in the "receiving side" only -- but I haven't tried that.
For more help on the printers/network printing, need to know the printer models.
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The cover says "Mac OSX V 10.5"
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I am running 10.4.11.
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Probably a dumb question, but I do not have any experience with removing applications from the Mac.
You simply drag them to the Trash. No uninstallation programs are necessary. Only Windows requires you to conjure a wizard to do something as simple as erasing a program.
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The good idea fairy hit me and I decided to do some home cabling. The end result was that the Time Capsule is now also connected to the Internet router via Ethernet. This is where the fun begins.
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2. Specifically, should the Extreme and TC be on different channels?
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AEBSn
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When you need to get something faster, look for a second hand xerve - we use them all the time. They have the advantage of have fast and very reliable discs, also you can raid the disks and hot swap them for backup purposes,
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Remember that Apple always tends to try to make things simple. It's much easier to tell a typical user that his computer will connect to the best available signal and leave it at that. Probably 90% of users don't even understand what dual band is.
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