Compressor and Soundtrack

I upgraded from 1.0.1 to 4.
I just read a post that says earlier versions had compressor and soundtrack (not v.1).
I guess I obviously missed out with my versions.
Question: Does compressor have any advantages now that iDVD has better compressions or is it virtually the same? What about soundtrack? - what am I missing here?

Brian is correct - Compressor is a Final Cut Pro application and Garageband will double for Soundtrack.
However, what you are really missing are most of the LiveType effects that came with FCE 3.5.
In that version there were some 9GBs of media files but in yours there is only about 500MBs.
Ian.

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Hi,
I have recently installed Mackeeper in my iMac. After everything I opened Logic Pro and it couldn't open. So I thought it could be an issue from Mackeeper, I requested a help from them and they asked me to send my report and I sent to them. Later on I was recommended to uninstall the logic pro, so when I reinstalled the logic pro the following components Compressor and Soundtrack Pro were deselected, it was in gray and I couldn't find out how to install it. The other issue is that the installation was successfully completed without installing the Logic Studio Audio Contents 1,2,3 and Demo Content was also not installed
Is there anything wrong I did?
Help Please!
Many thanks in advance

Interesting; and who would have thought ! What does Logic and FCP have to do with each other being installed. I have FCP running (w./ all) and Logic Pro 9 and perhaps your Logic Studio 2 is not the same. I have no idea.
I'm hoping that I can export the LPro files into FCP ez along with exporting them to WAV or formats that a PC can use; if anyone has heard of problems with that. ?

Compressor and Soundtrack Pro not installing even if Final Cut isn't there

Hello,
I have a problem installing Compressor and Soundtrack Pro that I don't know how to solve.
The "read me" note of the software says, "Warning: Soundtrack Pro 3 and Compressor 3.5 contain updated components that are incompatible with Final Cut Studio 2 or earlier. If the Logic Studio installer detects Final Cut Studio 2 or earlier on your system, it automatically deselects the checkboxes for Soundtrack Pro and Compressor in the Custom Install pane."
Problem is, I've never had Final Cut Studio installed and the installer still deselects Compressor and Soundtrack Pro, and I cannot find a way to install them.
I'm using a new MacBook Pro and everything is up to date on it. I haven't installed much of anything else on this machine either.
Can anyone help?

Hi
Perhaps these will help:
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3580
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=13051934&#13051934
CCT

Since Lion compressor and soundtrack pro have gone

Hi
Since I have installed Macos 1.7 (Lion) several programms have been removed from my HD: Compressor 3.5, Sountrack Pro and my favourite Quicktime 7. Do any of you have the same experience and do you know how to 'get these pgrms back?

Hi Jonaz
I haven't heard stories so far of Lion completely removing apps. I heard that Lion analyzes which apps are not compatible with Lion any longer (e.g. because they are PowerPC apps and need Rosetta to run). If Lion finds any of those apps, it moves them into a folder called "Incompatible Software" (see here http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3258)
If they are incompatible, they should be there. I don't know about SoundTrack Pro and don't have a Lion machine currently with both SoundTrack Pro or Compressor and Lion. But from what I heard on the internets, Compressor 3.5 should still work. I would try to re-install it from your installation DVDs. I can't think of any reason why they should not run under Lion.
Flint

What are the advantages of compressor and it it even necessary

what are the advantages of compressor and it it even necessary?

Necessary for some and not for others – probably a large majority – who can by with the presets avalaible in FCX.
The users who need Compressor are those who want to control the parameters of the encodes to get the best possible trade-off between file size and quality. Or those who want to do things like standards conversions, complex frame speed changes, better re-scaling capabilities, de-interlacing, re-interlacing, output formats beyond which are available in FCX, chapter markers for DVD and Blu-Ray authoring, batch conversions for multiple purposes through droplets, access to clusters for faster rendering.
Russ

Trying to get my fcp project to burn to dvd at the highest quality? Ive used compressor and then tried to put it in dvdsp put its not working. I am having problems with the audio or when i burn it , i cant play the dvd? any help would be appreciated

Ive used compressor and then tried to put it in dvdsp put its not working. I am having problems with the audio or when i burn it , i cant play the dvd? any help would be appreciated

I suspect you are attempting to burn an HD DVD, which will not play on a DVD player...
But if you provide more details such as the settings you are applying in Compressor, then we would be able to provide you more accurate information.
How are you adding the files to Compressor?
In FCP, what are your footage properties (command-9) and sequence settings (command-0)

Hardware compressor and am not quite sure how to use it in logic express 9. Please help???

I recently bought a dbx hardware compressor and am not quite sure how to use it in logic express 9. I hav a focusrite saffire 6 usb audio interface and am not sure how to use it in logic. Please help???

Hi Ujjawal,
Use the Tab-order property of IR object.
In design mode, select the any command button, right click and select the property. you will find the window for "Tab-Order". It lists all the objects available in that dashboard. Here you can arrange the tab order..
Hope it will help you.
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I recently bought a dbx hardware compressor and am not quite sure how to use it in logic express 9. I hav a focusrite saffire 6 usb audio interface and am not dont how to use it in logic. Please help???

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MUYconfundido wrote:
Pancenter,
Thanks for the response, but I do not have a midi interface. I am using a midi to usb connector cable, thus bypassing the need for a Midi interface.
The Mac reads the USB cable as a midi device, but not the keyboard that I am trying to use as a controller. I have tried it with my korg sp 300 and with my Nord Electro 2.
Thoughts?
Thanks,
Tristan
Tristan...
This is what you have, correct?
http://www.alesis.com/usbmidicable
This from Alesis..
"The AudioLink Series USB cable receives and outputs MIDI signal thanks to its internal interface. The USB-MIDI Cable connects plug-and-play to your Mac or PC for an all-in-one USB-MIDI solution."
Notice, -internal interface-. What you have is a simple USB MIDI Interface. Most MIDI interfaces are USB.
My point is (was), MIDI OUT of the Korg goes to the connector marked MIDI IN on the Alesis, those new to MIDI often get this wrong.
pancenter-

Compressor and outputting progressive mpeg-2's

Ok, bit of a dilemma here. Within compressor and outputting a file for a dvd project (mpeg-2), I've created 2 droplets. One, I have set the frame rate to "automatic" and the field output to "automatic" to use with my stock footage containing a frame rate of 23.98. After compressor has created the .m2v file I can import this into DVDSP with no problems. However, the second droplet I have created I have set the frame rate to "23.98" (same as source) and the field output to "progressive"...using this option allows me to control the GOP settings which is why I created the second droplet to begin with. The .m2v file that is output by this droplet will NOT import into DVDSP. It tells me the file format is not compatible. This is confusing me, because both .m2v files should be the same, no?
Can someone explain to me why setting the output fields to "automatic" rather than defining the output settings would make a difference even though the defined output is the same as the source file? I'm confused.

Hi
All info by Lennart - but in another way:
A. don't put a mini DVD into Your eMac. You need a trayloaded DVD to do this.
B. Read what Karsten collected:
DVD back to iMovie:
.. and here the complete 'full 9 yards' ... :
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=3822853&#3822853
DVDs are in a socalled delivery format (mpeg2), which isn't meant and
made for any processing as editing... or, as honorable forum member
QuicktimeKirk stated: I use the analogy of the old Polaroid
"instant" cameras. Push the button, wait for the print to develop and
show it off. ..
for using the iLife apps, you have to convert'em first, in
recommended order, choose one of the following tools/workarounds:
• DVDxDV (free trial, 25$, Pro: 90$)
• Apple mpeg2 plugin (19$) + Streamclip (free)
• VisualHub (23.32$)
• Cinematize >60$
• Mpeg2Works >25$ + Apple plug-in
• Toast 6/7/8 allows converting to dv/insert dvd, hit apple-k
• connect a miniDV Camcorder with analogue input to a DVD-player and transfer disk to tape/use as converter
• Drop2DV (free) a free tool claiming to convert DVDs into dv-stream...
• Use iSquint for your conversions : www.iSquint.org
from: Bobby Keene
none of these apps override copyprotection mechanisms as on commercial dvds...
http://danslagle.com/mac/iMovie/tips_tricks/6010.shtml
http://danslagle.com/mac/iMovie/tips_tricks/6018.shtml
be nice to copy rights ^-^
... and, next time, try the forum's search-feature...
from Beverly M.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=42724
Yours Bengt W

Final Cut Pro 4.5 HD and Soundtrack Pro 1.0.2 and new Intel iMac

I have the both FCP and Soundtrack Pro versions listed above. I'm thinking about picking up a new Intel iMac. Will I have to pay $199 or $99 to upgrade to FCP Studio. I just purchased Soundtrack Pro recently, if I could upgrade for just $99 and get Shake and iDVD that would be a deal...probably still a deal for $199.
I also use CS2, seems Adobe is a little confusing to me. Will I have to pay to get CS2 native for the Intel iMac? Any idea on cost and timeliness.
Separately, how will FCP run on a 20" Intel iMac once upgraded to Universal version, which I'll have to do, since it won't run under Rosetta? I currently only do Mini DV but should I plan on getting the extra video memory now, planning on eventually going into the HD video realm?
Thanks everyone for your thoughts and comments...thinking about getting the Intel iMac via CompUSA with their interest free deals tomorrow.
Dan
Powebook G4 Mac OS X (10.3.9) Happy with Mac...don't want to lose the ease!

well, same situation here, I was about to order a Macbook Pro but then decided to saty with our beloved G platform. the reason is that it will take some time for our Pro Apps to become fully /natively compatible with Intel and I just can't wait that much.
as for your question about using an iMac with FCP, the answer would be a;
"Yes" if you're going to work with DV only footage (using an external HD for your captured media is a must). and a
"No" if you plan to work with HD material in the future. there you've got no choice but a PowerMac G5 with a fast Graphic Card and a special SD/HD card or box to capture the footage.
résumé: if you're a serious FCP user, go for something expandible, go for a Powermac.

Qmaster Compressor and Shared Storage

I've got Qmaster working on my compressor encodes and everything is working fine. What I want to know is whether there is a way to cut out the extra copy of data for the encode. All of my machines in the cluster have the same shared storage mounted on the desktop, but still my jobs get copied first and then encoded.
Is there anyway to configure qmaster, compressor and the cluster machines so they all use their local path for source files? And avoid the extra copy of the source files to the controller system?
Thanks in advance.

You want to make sure in Compressor, under Preferences, the Cluster Options field says Never Copy Source to Cluster. Assuming you have all of the correct permissions set and have the Shared Storage configured properly then it should work. "Should" being the key word.

Compressor and dissolves -- a definitive answer?

I’ve been reading through many online forums, and although I see this problem posted often, I have yet to read a well-informed answer. Most of the solutions are based on guesswork or contradictory answers. To begin with, I am using FCP 4.5, OS X 3.9, Compressor 2, and DVDSP 3.0.2, and like many people I’m surprised by how poorly mpeg-2 encoding from Compressor renders fades to black and dissolves. I’m basically going from an edit in FCP to compressor and then to DVDSP.
I could be more specific in how I am editing my project, but I’ve seen this problem apply to progressive, interlaced, NTSC, and PAL projects. It also seems to apply to projects that are exported directly from the timeline, and to those that go through an extra quicktime step. Also, this problem has nothing to do with upgrades (I have a clean install, and keep my updates, well, updated).
Some folks blame compressor, while others blame mpeg-2 in general. It seems to me that it cannot be mpeg-2, because thousands of DVDs are produced every year with near-perfect fades, so the problem must lie somewhere in the software.
Is there any definitive source as to how to produce reasonable fade in mpeg-2 (book, forum, online tutorial)? It seems strange no one has nailed this down in any forum.
Much thanks.
Dual 2 Ghz Power Mac G5 Mac OS X (10.3.9)

On 1 - 1.5s duration dip to color (black) transitions
in FCP I find the results with Compressor v1.2.1 to
be v. good - that is to say no blockiness and a
professional result to the level of supplying DVD to
clients who express satisfaction.
Apart from C v.2 and OSX I use the same ver. of Apps
as you - I suspect the C v2 is the culprit. Have you
tried going back to 1.2.1 to see if the problem
persists?
I'd like to go back to Compressor 1.2.1 because that worked fine. But I'm having difficulty installing it. When I used the DVD Studio 3 install DVD, and try to install just Compressor (DVD Studio 3 is still on the hard drive in a "Previous Version" folder), it seems to install but never shows up. And when I try to install both Compressor AND DVD Studio Pro 3, it says the installation was successful, but NO Compressor appears in the Applications folder.
Any suggestions?
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Un-installing FCP 5.0, DVDSP4 and SoundTrack - going to Final Cut Studio 5

I've just recieved my Final Cut Studio cross-platform upgrade.
I have stand-alone versions/upgrades of Final Cut Studio 5, DVD Studio Pro and SoundTrack.
Can I just install Final Cut Studio 5 and it will replace all my programs with current verions?
Or do I have to un-install all programs before installing Final Cut Studio? If so, how do I un-install them?
Thanks in advance for your help.

Yes, you can just let them all be overwritten, it'll be fine. Some people like to keep older version of software around, but if you're not one of those, go ahead and do the default install.

Can I avoid re-encoding of .mov files with Compressor and DVD Studio Pro?

Hello,
I've had some projects banned at one of the tracking sites because my iMovie 6.0.1/iDVD 7.1.1 workflow involves re-encoding of the iMovie .mov file to MPEG 2 when authored in iDVD. I did some research, and was advised that I could get around the re-encoding by using Compressor and DVD Studio Pro instead of iDVD. But, when I import the iMovie file to Compressor for authoring in DVD Studio Pro, the result is another MPEG 2 file. So, am I missing something, or is there no way for me to avoid re-encoding with Apple video production tools.
Thanks for any assistance.

The simple fact that you have to encode your files into an mpeg-2 stream means that you're going to experience a loss in quality. Check the bitrate of your DV files. The max bitrate for all of the elementary steams (audio, video) on a DVD is 9.8mbps. So if your source has a higher bitrate than that... you're going to experience "lossiness."
However there are some tricks that I've read about that increase the overall quality of compression... and yes they are for windows. Check out AVIsynth and MeGUI... there is a learning curve to learning these tools though. I never followed through with it.
EDIT: Also forgot to mention that learning these things takes TIME. Quality encoding takes much longer than realtime.
You can also check out some higher quality mpeg2 encoders like cinemacraft and HC encoder, although the former costs $$$. The quality you get from these encoders are much better than what you have in iDVD and DVDSP/Compressor.

Can you export a project to Compressor and keep editing in FCP???

Hello my mac guru-ness,
I have a query, if I edit in FCP and export out to Compressor or Quicktime conversion, I am locked out from continuing to edit in FCP. Is there a way around this???
I need to edit 4 x 5 minute video's and need to export the 1st video to Mpeg2 and FLV via Compressor and Quicktime Conversion and then continue to keep editing the next video while the first one is still converting. How can I do this???
If I had 2 mac pros networked together, could I get the 2nd mac pro to convert the 1st video while I continue to edit the remaining 3 video's???
Would Final cut server help me in this scenario also?
Your assistance would be gratefully appreciated.
kris

To build on g's answer ... when exporting to Compressor from FCP, you will not be able to use FCP until the export is completed.
If your Macs are networked together, you can do a couple of things.
1. Export your sequence as a Quicktime file, then transfer it to your other Mac Pro, then have that Mac Pro encode.
2. I would recommend setting up your Mac Pro's as a little QCluster. Since the MP's have multiple cores, you can create multiple "instances" in QMaster Preferences. Instances are QMaster's way of dividing your multiple cores to spread the encoding across all cores. I generally create half the number of instances from the total number of cores available. For example, with an 8 Core MP, I would use 4 instances.
Read this article for further information on how to set up a QCluster: http://visionstudios.ca/RenderFarm/RenderFarmleft.html
On your MP that you will be editing on, you can then disable a couple of instances so that you wouldn't see as big of a performance hit while encoding and editing simultaneously. You use the Apple Qadministrator app to configure a cluster like this.

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