Compressor Depressed

HI,
I have been reading through these discussions and correct me if I am wrong but I have infered...
Compressor is very slow but there is nothing better out there?
So...I have a massive amount of old videos I would like to transfer onto DVD.
I have Final Cut Pro HD and DVD Pro 3.
Is there any way to make DVDs that are 2 or 3 hours long?
How do you guys handle it if you have that many hours of say a wedding or something?
Do you have any suggestions for speed, quality, etc...?
Thanks,
I look forward to hearing from all of you TechnoWizards :O)
Tobie2(wannabewizard)

Well, video encoding is very compute-intensive, thus any program that does it will take a lot of CPU cycles. Faster CPUs means your task finishes faster. Lowering quality will reduce the CPU cycles required, and thus make encoding faster.
Apple's Compressor can provide a very high quality result. It is also tunable, so you can turn down the quality and get a faster result on the same CPU. I believe there are other video encoders out there, but I don't know of one that is as tightly integrated with FCP-HD as Compressor is.
Yes, you can make DVDs that are 2-3 hours long. I don't believe Compressor has a preset that would allow that to fit, so you'd need to change/tune the settings appropriately.
It all comes down to bit-rate. Higher bit-rate means higher quality is possible, at the expense of recording time. Lower bit-rate means lesser quality but may allow more recording time. You'll need to experiment.
(Think VHS SP vs EP. Trade off recording time for quality.)
Personally, my suggestion is to master any project so that it just fills the entire disc. There is absolutely no reason to leave unused bytes on a disc.
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