Compressor Discards Chapter Markers

Hello All,
Honesty up front, I will be cross-posting this in the Compressor forum as well. The issue is this: I have an almost 90 minute ProRes Proxy cut in Final Cut, I export a Quicktime movie with the chapters, and have double and triple checked that those QT movies have the Chapters in them. I bring the file into Compressor, drop on the 90 minute best quality preset, and then wait 10 hours for the compression to finish. After the first time didn't bring the Chapters in, I redid it. What I changed this time is I did NOT check "Include Chapter Markers only" in the Extras tab of Compressor, but I did the first time. I just noticed that the Preview window doesn't show the markers when I open the file in Quicktime, I can see them. I also ran a short test, about 20 minutes of the final cut, and it had the chapter markers. Also, I've exported a chapter list from Final Cut and tried to import it into DVDSP, but it doesn't understand the file. Anyone know why they're not transferring over, and more importantly, how I can quickly re-encode a 22+GB file for many DVD burns tonight?
Thanks,
-Brian

Thanks for the reply. I've made many DVDs before with chapter markers, I mean heck, my first ever DVD had chapter markers. It doesn't matter whether I selected "All Markers" "DVD Studio Pro Markers" or "Chapter Markers", none of them would show up in Compressor. In Quicktime 7, they were all there, but never in Compressor. The exported movie was a Self-contained ProRes Proxy file. What I ended up doing was exporting the Chapter list from Final Cut, then manually editing the file to remove color, type, duration everything but the timecode placement and it's name. Why does Final Cut export all that info if the resulting file isn't understandable by Compressor? And for what it's worth, I'm working on the original 17" MacBook Pro, so while it has a Core Due 2.16, it only has the max of 2GB of RAM and after all, still is a 4 year old laptop. I doubt much would make this go quicker. Also, I made the disc image and placed it on my G4 Cube to burn as well as plug in my new Blu-ray drive so I was making 3 discs at once.
Thanks though,
-Brian

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I must be losing it. I meant to post in this thread.
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