Compressor in FCE

I tried to use Compressor in Final Cut Express, but the menu item is always gray. Do I have to get Compressor separately?

Okay, I figured they had to leave something out of FCE to reduce the price so much. Compressor is still on the menu, though, and even in the manual. I managed to create a web version of my video with Quicktime.

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Compressor in FCE & FCP quick question

Can I install the compressor from a FCP HD 4.0 disk as a stand alone application. I already have FCE on the computer I need to put a compressor on. If not, is the only way to get compressor through FC Studio?
Thank you
-Jon

Of course you can. in customization. do I get a dumb question award or something...am I the only one here writing to myself...hello...hello...well mr. Kitty I guess I'll never get any friends...

Compressor In FCE 4?

So I still need to export loads of sequences in a high quality with low file sizes, and they all really need to be mpeg's.
As I've found out, exporting using QT conversion doesn't have a great deal of options.
I'm running FCE 4, which is where the sequences are. My question is, if I install FCS will I be able to use compressor to export these sequences, either from FCE or FCP? And would it do a better job that QT conversion?
Thanks.

Craig,
It will help if you tell us exactly what you are exporting for (web, iPod, etc.) what your exact requirements are, what you already tried, and what about the results was not satisfactory.
There are loads of export options under QuickTime Conversion, including MPEG4. Small file sizes + high quality is what H.264 is designed for. Why do you need MPEG?
You can open an FCE project in FCP, but not the reverse. So if you migrate your project to FCP & make changes, you can't bring those changes back to FCE.

HEy was I suppose to get Compressor with FCE HD 3.5?

I was checking out some training videos on FCE HD 3.5 and it stated that I was suppose to get Compressor with the suite.
Is that true?
Thanks Ed

Does that mean that if I upgrade my FCE 3.0 to 3.5, and continue to use DVD SP 3.0, I will not be able to use the Compressor that came with 3.0 to make DVDs? And what about A.Pack - could I still use that to make DVDs?

AC3 Dolby files created from FCE to Compressor don't play in DVDSP

I've never had trouble with AC3 audio files playing in DVDSP until I started exporting from FCE through Compressor directly. AIFF files exported this way play fine, but are sometimes so large that the video+audio is too much for a DVD. This is why I like AC3 files, they are Dolby stereo, and they are way smaller, allowing me to use higher bit rates in Compressor for the video.
Now, when I export using Compressor and specify audio as Dolby 2.0 (AC3) the audio will not play in DVDSP. However, if I create an AIFF file at the same time it plays fine, and I can run the AIFF files back through compressor selecting AC3 output and those files work fine in DVDSP.
What gives? I'd like to be able to encode my audio as AC3 at the same time as I make my MPEG-2 file of the video, and then go directly to DVDSP. Any idea why this is happening, only when exporting from FCE directly through Compressor?
Thanks!

--UPDATE--
I found a series of bizarre workarounds that let me get AC3's from Compressor to work in DVDSP under my aforementioned configuration.
First, rather than using the "Export Using Compressor" option in Final Cut Pro, I used the "Export Audio As AIFF(s)" Option, creating a stand-alone AIFF of my timeline audio.
Next, I opened Compressor from the applications folder (again, not through FCP), and dragged the AIFF into the batch window. On the popup menu in the batch window, I selected "Audio Formats--> Dolby 2.0". I chose my destination and encoded. I did not change any settings in the Dolby 2.0 preset.
In DVDSP, if I clicked import in the assets window and selected the newly encoded AC3, it would show up in the assets bin, but the file STILL would not work. I removed the file from the assets bin.
Just for the heck of it, I opened a new finder window from the dock, found the file, and dragged it directly into the DVDSP assets bin. The file works!!! I couldn't believe it. Double clicking the AC3 in the finder with DVDSP open also places the AC3 into the assets bin, where it also functions properly.
I tried this procedure several times in a row and with several encoded AC3's to make sure it wasn't a fluke, and it wasn't.
So, again, clicking import for AC3's in DVDSP = BAD. Dragging AC3's right in the assets bin from the finder, or double clicking AC3's in the finder = GOOD.
The procedure mentioned above also *does not* work with AC3's made through one of the "DVD Presets" from Compressor. You have to take an **AIFF** into Compressor directly and send it out as an AC3 for it to work.

Does Compressor 3.5 Conflict With FCE 4 And LiveType?

Last week my Compressor 3.5 app suddenly refused to open.
I tried all the usual remedies including deleting it with FCS Remover but to no avail.
Eventually it was cured by deleting all the FCS 3 apps and reinstalling.
This morning Compressor once again refused to open with the original "There is a problem . . . " error message.
Now I realised I had done something an hour before.
I had just installed FCE 4 and LiveType that comes with it.
I believe I had also done the same before last week's problem.
It looks as though there is something about the installing of FCE 4 and/or LiveType that Compressor 3.5 does not like.
I used FCS 2 together with FCE 4/LT for a couple of years with no apparent conflict.
I have got everything going again by deleting all the FCS 3 apps and reinstalling . . . . not FCE 4 and LT of course!
I'm wondering whether it is caused by both of them or just one . . . . maybe LT.
Perhaps installing FCE 4 and LT before installing FCS 3 would work?
I could find out by experimenting but I think I've done enough reinstalling!

Thanks Jon.
I felt it might be something to do with the older FCE/LT installing outdated shared assets.
A couple of hours ago I successfully installed LiveType without it affecting FCS 3.
I installed it on another Mac and then simply copied the application across. I figured that FCS 3 would probably have already installed any "hidden" files LT would need and I seem to have been proved correct.
I think it will probably work with FCE but I am not feeling quite brave enough today!

Help! Compressor wierdness with FCE HD

Hi, I'm using FCE HD, and export to compressor.. usually with no problems... All of a sudden, when I export, it pauses for a while, does not load compressor, but returns the error message that the selection contains no data. What am I doing wrong?

This sounds like a Compressor problem. You mgith try on that forum. I'd try reinstalling Compressor. If not, export a QuickTime reference movie and launch Compresor separately, not from inside FCE. Drag the export file into the Comrpessor Batch window.

FCE and Exporting to QT Compressor grayed out

i have finished my first video. it is all rendered. solid blue line throughout.
i go to export, but the “Compressor” is grayed out.
in the lydna.com video i was watching, the instructor choose a ratio of 4:3.
i thought that is what i choose, but i can’t find it in the FCE browser. so, i think
that is my problem. i don’t know how to invoke (?) the 4:3 (or the 16:9 for that matter) ratio.
i hope it is not too late.
i want to save it as mpeg4-800.
thank you,
doug yelmen

I have FCE 3.5 HD. I bought Motion 2 separately when it was an option, Compressor 2 came with the Motion package. I can export to Compressor 2 as well as roundtrip with Motion from FCE export. You can still find Motion or Motion 2 on Ebay as a separate app. Someday, when sales slide, Apple may release separate app. packages again. Until then After Effects CS3, which is the industry work horse, has a pretty good render module. Oh and you can buy that separately too!
Ed

What Compressor To Use In Export With FCE?

My Final Cut Express has no MPEG2 export...what's a good, reasonably priced compressor to use, since apparently it's no longer an option with Quicktime Pro?

This is not reasonably priced, but it is free for 30 days to use so thats not bad if you are in a pinch as I currently am because QT7 removed my MPEG2 encoder from my FCE 2.0 that I used to have when I was using QT 6.?. Bad Apple. I felt that I paid for the MPEG2 encoder the first time so why does Apple have the right to remove it? Good luck in the same problems I am having. I will probably choose to look for a non-Apple created program. I have heard that there are some free ones out there, you just have to look.

FCE HD and Compressor 4

Does anyone know if Compressor 4 can be used with Final Cut Express HD? Thanks.

you won't be able to send to compressor direct from FCE - but you can export a quicktime file and use that file in compressor

I upgraded to version FCE 4, and lost compressor??

I reinstalled compressor from my copy of studio 2, and still no compressor. What do I do?!?! Help!

Tom,
I tried exporting as a self-contained movie... I kept all markers. Then, I ran into thru compressor. When I imported into DVD SP 4, it could not import any markers. So, what's going on? I feel like I lost a lot of critical functionality.... I can not do without markers.

FCE4.0.1 won't open when the App Icon is clicked. I've checked all Ext HD (verified prefs)- have trashed the FCE App and reinstalled from FCE discs, have downloaded the Plug In. I clicked on the FCE icon, the windows that says :registered to...and then l

FCE 4.0.1 won't open when I click the icon in the Dock or in the Applications icon of FCE. It had been working well but I had trouble when I trashed the reference Scratch disk to a project and I was asked to get it back. I checked all my drives through verify in Disk Utility and a couple needed repair - eventually were given the OK. I then Shut Down and rebooted, I then trashed the FCE App and reinstalled from the Install discs and , finally, I tried opening a FCE project. None of these caused the FCE App to open with Browser, Viewer, Canvas,. Time Line. All that happens is the the first FCE window, the one that says FCE registered to...and the other that says loading AE Effects, Video Effects does show but then nothing except my Desktop with it's various folders and files I also downloaded the Plug In Tom Wolsky suggested to a recent query.
All I can think of is to backup everything to HDs and take this iMac in for a service.It is only six months old - I reckon it will be poor driving by it's proud but unskilled driver!
James Bowman
New Zealand

Don't panic . . . . . yet!
You may not have trashed FCE properly.
Deleting the application icon is useless as there are a number of files hidden elsewhere which may be corrupt.
Download this free app to uninstall FCE completely and then reinstall it.
FCS Remover - Uninstall Final Cut Studio, Final Cut Pro, Motion, Compressor, Soundtrack Pro, Color, DVD Studio Pro, LiveType, Cinema Tools
I know it is called FCS Remover but it also works for FCE.

Few questions on exporting out with fce 3.5 for web distribution

Hello I have been trolling here for a few months reading up on things and I know my way around a search pretty well I have gotten some of these answers from reading but id like to have my own thread so I can keep it all in one place...
First..
I run websites that need video's for surfers to be able to view.. these videos are in length from 20 min to 1 hour or longer... now I have figured out that when I render with the h.264 out sorry fce calls it export... I choose the quicktime setting of lan and it seems to be about right for what im used to in high quality from rendering out with pinnacle studio for a wmv or an mpeg.. now heres where I get confused with fce
I see there is a wmv setting to export to.. but when I do it.. it only exports a bit of it...
now these are the formats I want for video...
.mov
.wmv
.mpg
I have compressor but I have no idea on the settings in there and can't find what I need
in those formats I would like to have a
high
med
low
as far as quality go's
can someone help me out so my life is easier please... in fact I have 50 bucks via paypal if I can get someone get my settings down right maybe even in compressor so I just have to edit... this part always messes with my head when it comes down to render out...
there has to be some editors on here that know excatly what im talking about without having to say it on here... if you want to chat in private you can email me chris (at) themibcorp (dot) com I will give you my ichat name from there maybe you can help me and ill help you with some paypal
I want the video to play on all forms of computers..
our's and the other kind.. LOL

This isn't something someone can decide for you. It's up to you ti make up your mind. Either will do the job. If you want to spend the time to experiment with settings to better suit your media and you know what you're doing and want to spend the money get the more expensive version. If you'll be happy to use the basic presets based on average media and file sizes then get the cheaper version.

16:9 Help needed. Workflow: extracted video from DVD, FCE HD edit & DVDSP.

Hi,
I have a project where according to the camera person it was shot in 16:9 with the camera (assuming a DV camcorder of some sort). It was captured from the camera and converted to a DVD (VIDEO_TS folder and everything) and sent to me for editing.
What I need help with is a workflow (and settings) to edit and output this properly.
1) My first hiccup comes in the extract. When I view the DVD that was sent to me, the video looks squished as it squeezes the video into the 4:3 aspect ratio. I was using MPEG Streamclip to extract it. I've extracted it in a 16:9 QT format and it looks fine in FCE HD. However, once I started reading more about editing 16:9 video in the FCE PDF manual, I'm wondering if I should have kept it as 4:3 and then toggled the Anamorphic setting for the sequence.
2) Once I have the correct source to edit - are there any considerations on export for compression? I read somewhere about a program to set the anamorpgic bit for iDVD, but plan to use DVDSP so I'm assuming I can skip this step. I also read in the forum about a QT Conversion setting to use. Do I need to? I was planning to export a reference movie and use Compressor with that. I was planning to use a "Widescreen" compressor option. Is this correct?
3) I know this is beyond this forum, but any advice on what settings should I use in producing the DVD? As noted above I plan to use DVDSP 3 to create the DVD, and I do notice the 16:9 settings in there for each track. I was planning to use the 16:9 Letterbox track setting. Is this correct?
Any other pitfalls I should be aware of as I navigate the 16:9 jungle?
Thanks in advance.
Sean
12 PB Rev C (1.33 GHz G4) & PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 Mac OS X (10.4.7)

Chandan
First, with regard to your chipset - graphics/video card:
Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset, featuring the Mobile Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) 450...
Your graphics card has no video RAM (VRAM) of its own. So, it must use some of your system RAM to be able to function. This is 'dynamically allocated'. That is, your system decides how much system RAM to allocate to the graphics card. I am not aware of anyway to manually control this.
Next, you said you have installed Windows XP. Toshiba India has not posted any XP drivers for your system. Toshiba laptops are very finicky about using Toshiba 'tweaked' hardware drivers to be able to function properly. This computer is a Toshiba European version of your model, and it would appear to have a full set of XP drivers, these will work just fine in your system:
Satellite Pro C650 PSC11E Downloads
The order you load the hardware drivers and Toshiba utilities is critical. The files available for download above are all zip files, so you will have to extract the .exe files to be able to install them. Install the drivers first, then the Toshiba utilities, and given that you already have XP basically working install in this order:
1st Drivers:
1) Chipset
2) Storage Manager
3) Display
4) Sound
5) then all other XP hardware drivers
2nd Utilities:
1) Common modules
2) Hotkey utility
3) all other XP Toshiba utilities.
Good luck.
Mike

Why does some video need to be rendered in FCE 4 before I can work on it?

I've been trying to get a handle on FCE 4 because it's very different than iMovie '08. I have a bunch of content in iMovie that I'd like to mess with in FCE 4, so I exported from iMovie as FCE XML and imported in FCE. There is some video that I re-encoded to Quicktime from ASF and it seems to need to be rendered before it will show up in the Canvas in FCE 4. FCE shows this content as DV/DVCPRO - NTSC under "Compressor" in the browser. Other stuff that was taken off my Sony HDR-SR7 is available in FCE 4 without any problems. This shows up as Apple Intermediate Coded in the browser.
What's the deal with rendering anyway? Why does FCE need to "render" video to add things like effects when iMovie can add effects, etc at will with no "rendering" required?

FCE can do certain effects on the fly without rendering. Some more elaborate transitions, like 3D wipes, require too much processor time to do them in real time. My understanding is that Macs with greater on-board processing power do more of these effects in real time, while slower machines must render.
iMovie can do these effects on the fly because it's working with far less information. Think of iMovie works in the DV format while FCE works in the DV/DVCPRO-NTSC format. It's too subtle a name difference but the reality is quite different. It's like editing still pictures in compressed, lossy JPEG format vs. uncompressed TIFF format. Think about how long it takes your computer to open a photo of say, 8x10" 300 dpi in TIFF vs. that same file in JPEG. Well, that's what FCE has to do. It's working in the video equivalent of TIFF -- 30 frames per second. So there's a greater demand on your processor by a factor of 10. You can see this in action in Quicktime. Save a raw video import 720x480 in .dv and then in DV/DVCPRO-NTSC format and then play it back. The .dv will probably play smoothly while the DV/DVCPRO-NTSC (.mov) will hang up on play-back. It's just too much for your process to display all of those full resolution images so rapidly. And if you look at the two images side-by-side (particularly titles) you'll see how sharp and clear the .mov file is compared to the compressed .dv file.
Hope this helps.

Compressor in FCE

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