Compressor Missing Markers

This week my markers came up missing when I exported via Quicktime Movie, then dragged the file into compressor.
The markers show up if I open the movie in quicktime, but they will not show up on the Preview bar.
Export was set to DVD Studio Pro Markers and I tried the All Markers setting. The markers always show up in QuickTime Player.
Of course I did the latest and greatest update for pro apps this week.
Any ideas how to get the chapter markers to appear in Compressor?
Using FCP 6 with Compressor 3.0.5 and QuickTime Player 7.6.6.
Thanks in advance.

Do you have Compressor set to show chapter markers? Next to the timeline (Preview window) click on the maker icon and see if this is set to show chapter marks.
If you don't have a ton of marker to make you can just make them in Compressor. Click on the marker icon to make the chapter marker.
To make chapter makes to be imported into Compressor, Compressor manual page 302.
Message was edited by: David M Brewer

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