Compressor Pal to NTSC - issues - will progressive help?

I am trying to optimise a pal - to ntsc conversion. Source footage is DV tape.
I realise that there is always a quality hit - i have been using compressor following Anton Lineker's excellent article from Aussie Macworld mar 06 - on slow pal to ntsc conversion.
Am wondering if ,when using the encoder options in compressor,going progressive scan over deinterlaced will help up the quality - at the moment my final output is getting some serious "banding" when any motion happens on screen (eg moving pictureframes have "slat blind" edging while my original pal output maintains a sharp edge on the moving picture frame)- could this be an interlacing issue via the encoder in compressor?
and will progressive play out on many tvs around the world?

You may want to contact Roger Anderson at http://www.innobits.se/ssl/email_us.php . I understand that his new version of Bitvice may be able to solve your conversion issues.
You can download a demo version of this software, ( http://www.innobits.se/ssl/download.php ) to see if it solves your problems. I know that he has incorporated a new set of algorithms to scale between different source like NTSC to PAL and back as well as other new capabilities.

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a) edit your footage in 25 progressive. Export it as image sequence. Export audio separately.
b) In QTP import image sequence to NTSC frame rate 23.976. Add your audio (SCALED) to your movie.
c) Import your movie to 23.976 FCP sequence.
d) export it NTSC mpg2, which will add standard pulldown to bring it to 29.97.
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