Compressor rendering time

I am using Final Cut Studio 2.
I am rendering HD footage in FCP for use in DVD studio.
I am using compressor to compress the footage for DVD
DVD Setting in compressor: 90 minute best video
Rendering time is approximately 7-8 hours per hour of footage?
Is this normal?
My computer is:
iMac 3.06GHz Core 2 Duo (2008 model)
4 gigs of 800 mhz ddr2 sdram (this is the max ram for this computer! )
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS 512 MB
Hard drive: 465 gig (I use mainly external drives for editing)
Would an older Power PC G5 be any better as a friend suggested that it would.
Thanks
Bill

NO!
My workflow is for a finished DVD of up to 65 minutes.
That 65 minute video would pretty well fill the DVD.
So it would be impossible to get any more on.
When you do 90, 120 or 150 minute DVDs you have to compress the video more so that it will fit on. This reduces the quality of course.
You could use the "Fast" settings rather than the "Best".
This would get it done in less than half the time but the quality would not be as good.
However, I don't think there will be a tremendous difference and it could well be good enough for your requirements.
NOTE: Just to be absolutely clear, if your finished DVD is 2.5 hours long you will have to use one of the 150 minute presets.
Message was edited by: Ian R. Brown

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