Computing Consolidation Entries - YTD Vs Periodic

Hello Experts:
We are in the design phase of the project. Referring to the quesiton asked earlier by Sitaram (Periodic versus YTD computation of consolidating entries), Does any one has comparison between YTD Vs Periodic ?
We are in the process of determining which is the best approach to go for.
Any inputs is appreciated.
Thanks,
Ravi

the problem we encountered was a bug that SAP fixed for us.
For consols, ytd is the way to go. Planning can go either way.
Tara Sitaram

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BPC Consolidation application - YTD or periodic

Hi,
YTD or Periodic - For legal consolidation (IFRS, USGAAP), what would be the best option for a customer with ECC, BW and BPC landscape. Are there any major issues in mapping specific consolidation process in YTD application (like reconciliation with ECC data ect).

Hello Lokesh,
The IFRS focuses mainly on the reporting aspects of financial results of an enterprise. Consolidated or not, for all listed companies, these requirements impose strict norms that need to be adhered to for reporting the financial results. Therefore, if an enterprise has many subsidiaries and the numbers are reported for the group as per the IFRS norms, it still presupposes that ALL the norms have been adhered to.
In respect of Business Objects Planning and Consolidation, SAP has come up with a Starter Kit for IFRS adoption. It is pre-configured with all reports, controls and rules for performing, validating and publishing a statutory consolidation in accordance with IFRS standards. An enterprise may have the desired setting for its Consolidation Definition. One of the settings is choosing a pre-defined variant that allows it to have either Periodic or YTD setting to be selected for a given category, data period and currency. For more information, follow this link:
http://help.sap.com/businessobject/product_guides/bofc10/en/FC10_SK_IFRS_ConfDesc_en.pdf
In my view, for legal consolidation, the consolidated financial information is valid only if it is YTD. The periodic values are needed only for calculating the movements - for Statement of Cash Flows. This aspect is well taken care of in the Consolidation Processing u2013 either Full Processing or Incremental processing.
If you want to reconcile the balances as per ECC, BI as well as BPC, you have to consider only the YTD values.
Hope this gives adequate information for clarifying your doubt.
Chakrapani

Using variable 0P_FPER to calculate YTD Fiscal period

Could someone please explain the procedure for creating a variable which will use the value entered from the variable 0P_FPER - Period/Fiscal Year (Single Value Entry, Required) to calculate the YTD Fiscal Period.
Regards,
Craig Stephen

You have to create a Customer Exit variable for this :
<b>Customer Exit - > YTD from Fiscal Period</b>
<b>Let ZVCCYTDX be the tech name of Customer Exit Variable & 0P_FPER be the user entered variable for Fiscal Year Period.</b>
User Exit: ZVCCYTDX
Input: 0P_FPER
Output: Jan of Accident Year Range
Logic Description:
WHEN 'ZVCCYTDX'.
if i_step = 2.
clear loc_var_range.
loop at i_t_var_range into loc_var_range WHERE vnam = '0P_FPER '.
if sy-subrc = 0.
curr_year = loc_var_range-low(4).
concatenate curr_year '001' into jan_accidentyear.
CLEAR L_S_RANGE.
L_S_RANGE-LOW = jan_accidentyear.
L_S_RANGE-SIGN = 'I'.
L_S_RANGE-OPT = 'EQ'.
append l_s_range to e_t_range.
exit.
**endif.
endloop.
endif.
**Coding is not required if you can enhance the Datatarget with Fiscal Year and Posting Period.

Consolidation in special posting period

Hi All,
I am using the Fiscal year variant April to March with 4 special posting periods in ECC. I am using the same in BCS too.
I am taking the data through LFDS with posting period move.
I am using quarterly consolidation which is period 3, 6, 9 and 12. However I have balances appearing in special posting periods 13 - 16 in source cube. My first consolidation is happeing for period 12. 2008
How do I take care of the transactions posted in Sepcial posting periods 13 - 16.
1. Should I be running the COI in period 16 too. Should I be running it as subsequent consolidation or make period 16 itself as first consolidation.
2. I am also thinking of making the changes in the source cube 0FIGL_C10 with an additional field called consolidation posting period and write a routine to update additional period field as 12 wherever the posting period is 13 to 16. Then extract the data into BCS for period 12 and have only consolidation frequency till period 12. Can I proceed with this approach ?
Pl give a standard and correct approach to be followed in case of special posting periods considering all the above facts.
Thanks in advance
Srinivasan

Hi Srinivasan,
1. Should I be running the COI in period 16 too. Should I be running it as subsequent consolidation or make period 16 itself as first consolidation.
- I don't think that you should.
2. I am also thinking of making the changes in the source cube 0FIGL_C10 with an additional field called consolidation posting period and write a routine to update additional period field as 12 wherever the posting period is 13 to 16. Then extract the data into BCS for period 12 and have only consolidation frequency till period 12. Can I proceed with this approach
- I like the idea.
Pl give a standard and correct approach to be followed in case of special posting periods considering all the above facts.
- Didn't see such written approaches and doubt that they exist.

YTD and Periodic

Hi Experts,
I have had a request from a client to build a balance sheet. The issue is that they have been using BPC 7.5 on a periodic basis for the finance application. They want a balance sheet to now be built and this has to be at YTD.
Their application parameters is not set to YTD.
Its is possible to build a YTD balance sheet with the application parameters set to periodic.
TIA
HHDJ

Hi there,
Are they currently loading balance sheet data on YTD or Periodic basis?
If they are already loading data to the B/S then you can just set the measure to YTD in instead of Periodic.
However if they want to start loading YTD B/S data into a Periodic application then that cannot be done because the application has been already setup as Periodic.
Could you create another App that's strictly YTD or convert the YTD B/S via an ETL process to make it Periodic?
HTH,
John

YTD or Periodic ? Also the impact of Force Closing parameter

Dear expert,
I have 2 question :
1. YTDINPUT in Application Parameter :
Is there any concern if i put the parameter with Periodic ? For Example : Any function in bpc that cannot run in periodic data, maybe carry foward function?
What is the major consideration when i have to choose the periodic or ytd parameter?
2. In automatic adjustment at the business rules detail.
There is column named Force Closing.
I put the Source Flow is F0440 = ( Closing Balance Type )
I Put Destination Flow is Blank ( From what i'm read, it will write same as the Sorce Flow )
And I put The Force Closing is Check
Is that any problem with that ? Like Double data ?
Thx
Suprapto

Dear Wandi,
Thanks for your answer, but i think i need to be clear with my question:
For case no. 1:
I see in BPC Documentation, the recommended value in YTDInput Paramter is YTD and not periodic.
Why the recommended value is YTD ?
Out of the customer needs, what is the best pratices in bpc to store data in Legal Application , YTD or Periodic ?
Because, BPC comes with great function ( store procedure, business rules, etc ) example : business rules can set up to carry foward the value ,
If the parameter set to periodic, is the function that created in bpc will have to re-script again to make the value carry foward ?
Please see my cases not just only in carry foward case, but the consideration if the periodic is setup then what features in bpc that i have to re-create again manually in script.
For case no 2:
My service patch is 7.0.112
IF my settings is like that ? is it will create a dupplicate value ?
Because the source value is the ending balance, the destination is ending balance and the force closing is check.
From what i'm read in document, the force closing will create value in the ending value. Am I will create dupplicate data if the source value is the ending balance, the destination is ending balance and the force closing is check ?
Thanks for your help.

Automating consolidation entries using business rules

Hi all,
May I know whether it is possible to automate the following standard consolidation entries in SAP BPC using Automatic Adjustments Business Rules tables:
1. Attribution of profit after tax to Equity Holders and Minority Interest;
2. Appropriation of changes in post-acquisition Reserves to Minority Interest; and
3. Elimination of parent company's Investment in Subsidiaries against subsidiaries' pre-acquisition Share Capital and Reserves.
The mechanics of these entries are:
1. [Profit after Tax|https://forums.sdn.sap.com/] x POWN% -> post to [Retained Earnings|https://forums.sdn.sap.com/] and [Profit after Tax|https://forums.sdn.sap.com/] x Minority Interest % -> post to [Minority Interest|https://forums.sdn.sap.com/]
2. [Post-acquisition changes in Reserves|https://forums.sdn.sap.com/] x Minority Interest % -> post to [Minority Interest|https://forums.sdn.sap.com/]
3. Parent company's [Investment in Subsidiaries|https://forums.sdn.sap.com/] -> post to [Goodwill|https://forums.sdn.sap.com/], Subsidiaries' [Pre-acquisition Share Capital and Reserves|https://forums.sdn.sap.com/] x POWN% -> post to [Goodwill|https://forums.sdn.sap.com/] and Subsidiaries' [Pre-acquisition Share Capital and Reserves|https://forums.sdn.sap.com/] x Minority Interest % -> post to [Minority Interest|https://forums.sdn.sap.com/].
The questions are:
How do I specify the Minority Interest % in the Automatic Adjustments Business Rules Table.
How do I specify that I am using Direct PCON% and Direct Minority Interest % for some entries and Indirect POWN% and Indirect Minority Interest % for some other entries?
How do I post one entry to the same level in the ENTITY hierarchy in which the ENTITY resides for subsidiaries and post the same entry to the immediate next higher level for the Parent Company in that level?
Thank you.
Regards.

Resolved.
correcting the code below
*RUN_PROGRAM VALIDATION
//CATEGORY = %CATEGORY_SET%
CURRENCY = %GROUPS_SET%
TID_RA=%TIME_SET%
OTHER=[ENTITY=%ENTITY_SET}
*ENDRUN_PROGRAM
to
*RUN_PROGRAM VALIDATION
//CATEGORY = %CATEGORY_SET%
CURRENCY = %GROUPS_SET%
TID_RA=%TIME_SET%
OTHER=[ENTITY=%ENTITY_SET%]
*ENDRUN_PROGRAM

Exporting YTD and PERIODIC data

Hi all,
I've adjusted a data manager package so that the YTD and PERIODIC measures are automatically selected for export to a flat file. Whenever I want to save the package the script automatically changes and removes either YTD or PERIODIC.
Any idea how I can change the script so that both YTD and PERIODIC measures are exported to a flat file?
Thank you.
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TASK(/CPMB/APPL_TD_SOURCE,SELECTION,"%SELECTION%DIMENSION:C_ACCT||DIMENSION:C_DATASRC|INPUT,INPUT_DIFF_ECCS,INPUT_ADJ,INPUT_GW,MJ_MANJE|DIMENSION:FLOW|F_999|DIMENSION:GROUPS|N_GROUP|DIMENSION:INTCO|I_TOTAL|DIMENSION:RPTCURRENCY|LC|")
TASK(/CPMB/EXPORT_TD_CONVERT,INPUTNO,%TEMPNO1%)
TASK(/CPMB/EXPORT_TD_CONVERT,TRANSFORMATIONFILEPATH,\ROOT\WEBFOLDERS\Company\LEGAL\DATAMANAGER\TRANSFORMATIONFILES\SYSTEM FILES\Export.xls)
TASK(/CPMB/EXPORT_TD_CONVERT,SUSER,%USER%)
TASK(/CPMB/EXPORT_TD_CONVERT,SAPPSET,%APPSET%)
TASK(/CPMB/EXPORT_TD_CONVERT,SAPP,%APP%)
TASK(/CPMB/EXPORT_TD_CONVERT,OUTPUTNO,%TEMPNO2%)
TASK(/CPMB/TD_APPL_SERVER_TARGET,INPUTNO,%TEMPNO2%)
TASK(/CPMB/TD_APPL_SERVER_TARGET,FULLFILENAME,/interface/BIP/BPC_export/%FILE%)
TASK(/CPMB/TD_APPL_SERVER_TARGET,ADDITIONALINFO,1)

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Loading data - YTD vs Periodic

Just to confirm...you cannot load some data as YTD and some as MTD, correct? Same app, same scenario.

Within a data file, you can mix records (different accounts) with YTD and Periodic. But I have not tried mixing YTD and Periodic records for same account and load it with "Accumulate within file" option.

LSMW input method error-No Customizing entry defined for period indicator Y in logon language

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I am creating one material through direct input method and its showing error '
No Customizing entry defined for period indicator Y in logon language'.
I am passing PERKZ ( periodic indicator ) as blank from file.
But when i am creating in foreground its automatically taking value 'M' and creating the material.
And also when i hardcode the value 'M' in LSMW then also its showing same error.
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Check in O02K what is maintained. As per your error message, External Period Indicator "Y" is missing for that logon language.
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Consolidation rule "Aborted" on changing DefaultView from YTD to Periodic

Hi Everyone,
Here's my situation. I have a calculated account Current Year Earnings calculated as follows:
Value=HS.Value.Member
+if (Value<>"[Proportion]" and Value<>"[Elimination]" and Hs.Entity.Isbase("","")) Then+
+Hs.Exp "A#EarningsCurrentYear=A#TotalIncome.I#[ICP Top]+A#TotalExpenses.I#[ICP Top]"+
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Now I found that for the month of May, this was doubling the expected value which I found out was being caused as the default view for the current scenario being YTD. Since I wanted to calculate the figure only for the month, I changed the default view to Periodic.
After that when I ran the consolidation, it showed "Aborted" with an error code. It indicated that the error was encountered in the Sub Caculate() routine.
What can be the reason?
Any suggestions would be really helpful. If this does not work, how can I calculated this for the month only?
Thanks,
Sayantan
PS: Data has been loaded for the Periodic member. There are no Line Items for any account.

You cannot specify the value dimension on the left hand side of any expression. Nor can you specify Year, Period, or Entity. All of these are the "page" dimensions, which is why you have a condition for them.
Also, I don't see how your value dimension condition would ever be true: it is not possible to be in both [Proportion] and [Elimination] at the same time. You have an "AND" operator there.
--Chris

Consolidation PTD/YTD

On Consolidation Transfer Window you have the option to choose Amount Types (PTD/YTD)
What I understood from this is you can consolidate either PTD or YTD balances (beside other types).
I can see how PTD consolidation would work. PTD balances would be sent over to the Parent Ledger. Parent Ledger's YTD would be derived from this PTD activity.
What I don't understand is that how YTD consolidation looks like? How would PTD balances be derived in Parent Ledger?
Let me rephrase my question:
Shouldn't always period net activity (PTD) be transferred over to the parent? All other balance types like YTD, QTD etc would be derived from this period net activity? If we transfer YTD instead then how would period net activity be derived in parent?

A few things:WHat problem are you having with DTS? The calculation you describe looks like it could be solved with DTS without adding calculation overhead.Second, rather than create a new dimension, you could create an alternate rollup in your existing dimension, and use shared members to create the to-date totals.If you want to use a new dimension, you need 3 members in it, not 2:To Date - data - YTD - PTDYou need a placeholder to load the data into, then 2 members to apply the to date calculation to.The formula on YTD could look something like this:IF (@ISMBR (Jan)) YTD = data->Jan;ELSEIF (@ISMBR (Feb)) YTD = @SUMRANGE (data, Jan:Feb);... etc...ELSE YTD = @SUMRANGE (date, Jan:Dec);ENDIFThe formula takes the values stored in the data member and sums them across the appropriate range of months. The function for PTD could be similar, with slightly different logic.Hope that helps.Regards,Jade---------------------------------Jade ColeSenior Business Intelligence ConsultantClarity [email protected]

BCF in BPC - Consolidation on YTD Model

Hi
I would like to know whether we need to run the BCF for every period in BPC- Consolidation NW 10 with YTD model.
If you’re using a YTD model for consolidations, then you need to run the BCF
package for each period of the new year. This is necessary to record the opening
balance for each period because in a YTD model, the opening balance isn’t summed
up from the prior periods.
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SAP BOSS

Hi,
if by BCF you mean the carry forward of balances business rule then the answer is yes, you need to run it for every period in a YTD model.
Alternatively you could copy the opening balance flow data from one month to another as it remains constant throughout a financial year, showing always the closing amount from the prior year end period.
BR,
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Balance sheet reports - YTD or Periodic

Hello Experts,
Had a question about how and what data needs to be loaded from BW to BPC NW version so that I can create balance sheet reports in BPC. Currently I am loading the periodic debit-credit activity to my planning application for all the accounts (Its the 0FIGL_O14 DSO and there is a custom cube created over it. We are not loading the 0BALANCE from the 0FIGL_C10 cube).
As an example, when we select in the current view both 2011.MAR and YTD, I though the report was supposed to return the values accumulated between 2011.JAN to 2011.MAR for Balance sheet accounts. Instead of that, the report returns only the 2011.MAR value.
But after reading a couple of threads on the forum I found that the above is the right behavior since balance sheet account values are always loaded as YTD.
I know I am doing something wrong out here but dont know the exact reason and how do I correct it?
Please give suggestions around how balance sheets are to be created and what data needs to be exactly loaded from BW...
Thanks
Gaurav

Hi Gaurav,
It is ideal to make all the custom changes in BW itself and feed it as-is to BPC, as to do this in BW it just requires some simple ABAP.
I am assuming that you are feeding data to BPC via 0figl_c10 cube(transaction figures) or a custom cube based on it. This cube should have 0sales(periodic balances) and 0balance(cumulative balances). So enhance this cube with a new key figure and populate this key figure based on the approach that i mentioned to you earlier. Just map this newly added field to BPC signeddata to meet your requirement. This is the best approach that i see.
PS: Please assign points if you find the answers helpful.
Thanks,
Vinay

Custom formula YTD for PERIODIC Application - BPC 7.5 NW

Dear all,
The customer has 2 time hierarchies, fiscal year and calendar year. He would like to change the measures formulas to fix their fiscal year specification, their fiscal year begins in April instead of January. Some entities of the customer will input data based on fiscal year and someone based on calendar year.
Their application is a PERIODIC application. I cannot use the how to guide 'How to Create Customer measure formulas for Fiscal Periodic, QTD and YTD' because it's only for YTD application.
Can someone help me to understand how to modify the YTD formula for the entities that inputs based on the PARENTH2 (fiscal year hierarchy), please?
I will send you the code delivered from SAP for YTD measure formula for PERIODIC Application
MEMBER [MEASURES].[YTD] AS 'IIF([%KFSPL%].CURRENTMEMBER.PROPERTIES("2/CPMB/ACCTYPE")="INC",SUM(PERIODSTODATE([%PERIODS%].[LEVEL00], [%PERIODS%].CURRENTMEMBER),-[MEASURES].[/CPMB/SDATA]),IIF([%KFSPL%].CURRENTMEMBER.PROPERTIES("2/CPMB/ACCTYPE")="EXP",SUM(PERIODSTODATE([%PERIODS%].[LEVEL00], [%PERIODS%].CURRENTMEMBER),[MEASURES].[/CPMB/SDATA]),IIF([%KFSPL%].CURRENTMEMBER.PROPERTIES("2/CPMB/ACCTYPE")="AST",([MEASURES].[/CPMB/SDATA], CLOSINGPERIOD([%PERIODS%].[LEVEL02])),IIF([%KFSPL%].CURRENTMEMBER.PROPERTIES("2/CPMB/ACCTYPE")="LEQ",-([MEASURES].[/CPMB/SDATA], CLOSINGPERIOD([%PERIODS%].[LEVEL02])),-[MEASURES].[/CPMB/SDATA]))))';SOLVE_ORDER=3
Thanks
Regards
Rosa Alfonso

Hi Chandra,
Few things that you can check -
1. What is your fiscal canlendar period? April to March or Jan to Dec?
2. In Time Dimension, MONTHNUM whould be '1' for the month from which the fiscal year starts
3. In Time Dimension, ISBEGINING whould be '1' for the month from which the fiscal year starts
Please do these changes, process the dimension, refresh the dimension members in BPC-Excel and then see if you get proper values.
Hope this helps.
If problem still persists, please copy-paste the YTD formula from backend ... will check and let you know. Also what is the version, SP and patch level that you are working on?
Regards,
Rashmi

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