Concept of setup tables
HI,
Why there is a concept of setup tables only in LIS/LO,not in other extractors.
Hi
You dont expect data to change as dynamically in other extractors than in LIS/LO
In finance, most extractors are fetching some calculations which are reported after the transactions have been completed
In LIS/LO, say PO, SO and other transactions are prone to high degree of change and the change needs to be captured.
Regards
N Ganesh
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What is the concept of setup tables in LO extraction?
Hi,
what is the concept of set up tables in LO EXTRACTION?
GIVE ME COMPLETE DETAILS and how to run deltas? I want step by step procedure.
Thanks in advance.
ravi.Ravi,
I think the blog series by Robert Negro about LO is the best available information.
SDN thread:
/community [original link is broken]
It would be nice if there is any help.sap documentation available.
Raj. -
Why to use setup tables in LO extraction
Hi gurus
please send me answerHi,
Think of the SAP application tables as Production system. Now why dont we directly do reporting on these tables or why cant we use these tables instead of ODS as these already have detailed data.
One of the major reasons is performance. If you want to load this data to BW directly with out setup tables, you cannot be sure that you have correct data in the BW system as these tables are changed by the transactions. If you still do not want to use setup tables, you should stop any changes to the tables, which is impossible (will impact the business).
I believe this is why SAP does not allow direct access to application tables and has brought in the concept of setup tables. The setup tables hold the data for us to transfer and any changes in the data records is moved to the delta queue.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Hope this helps!
Regards,
Maddy -
No setup table concept in FI Module.
Hi Guys,
why there is no setup table concept in FI Module.Can any body explain in detail?
Thanks,
chinna
points will be awardedHi Chinna,
Go through this previous thread on the same issue
Why at all setup table
I hope this helps u...
Regards,
R.Ravi -
Order is locked by user while filling setup table
Hi Experts,
Yesterday while i am filling setup table for 2LIS_DM_VAITM (DBM Sales) data source it got cancelled.
It showed that " Order xxxxxx is locked by user".
Because we have DSO concept in our CUBE, we didn't lock users.
But then the basis checked the users and removed from the system.
But still after removing the users, when we do the setup filling it still gets cancelled showing the same error.
Please help on this. Now i am stuck in filling setup section.
Thanks,
ThiliniHi,
Thanks. I followed your instructions and removed * , last two check boxes and selected sales org.
Now i am filling setup and its still running. I used a background job.
In sm37 it shows as "active"
But when I check in NPRT, It shows no logs were found.
I want to know that, is everything fine?
Setup table is filling right?
expects a reply please...
Thanks,
Thilini -
How to activate Purchase datasource without deleting setup table for others
Hi Gurus,
In developement system purchasing datasources 2LIS_02_HDR, 2LIS_02_ITM and 2LIS_02_SCN are active and deltas are also running for these.
Now acccording to the requirement We need to activate other datasources as well like 2LIS_02_CGR and SGR .........
To so this do we have to run the setup table again or any other option is there for this??
As this step would take lots of time in Production and for this downtime would be required which is not feasible.
Please suggest some solution.
Thanks in Advance,
Uday Shankar.Hi,
We will do the setup (Filling and Deleting) concept based on application component it's not based on DS .S you don't have other way.
Regards
Ram. -
Setup table and delta mechanisim
Hi,
Can anyone explain in detail setup table concept in LO extraction and
Delta mechanisim?
SridharHi
LO Cockpit Step By Step
Here is LO Cockpit Step By Step
LO EXTRACTION
- Go to Transaction LBWE (LO Customizing Cockpit)
1). Select Logistics Application
SD Sales BW
Extract Structures
2). Select the desired Extract Structure and deactivate it first.
3). Give the Transport Request number and continue
4). Click on `Maintenance' to maintain such Extract Structure
Select the fields of your choice and continue
Maintain DataSource if needed
5). Activate the extract structure
6). Give the Transport Request number and continue
- Next step is to Delete the setup tables
7). Go to T-Code SBIW
8). Select Business Information Warehouse
i. Setting for Application-Specific Datasources
ii. Logistics
iii. Managing Extract Structures
iv. Initialization
v. Delete the content of Setup tables (T-Code LBWG)
vi. Select the application (01 u2013 Sales & Distribution) and Execute
- Now, Fill the Setup tables
9). Select Business Information Warehouse
i. Setting for Application-Specific Datasources
ii. Logistics
iii. Managing Extract Structures
iv. Initialization
v. Filling the Setup tables
vi. Application-Specific Setup of statistical data
vii. SD Sales Orders u2013 Perform Setup (T-Code OLI7BW)
Specify a Run Name and time and Date (put future date)
Execute
- Check the data in Setup tables at RSA3
- Replicate the DataSource
Use of setup tables:
You should fill the setup table in the R/3 system and extract the data to BW - the setup tables is in SBIW - after that you can do delta extractions by initialize the extractor.
Full loads are always taken from the setup tables
1. Data Flow
Relevant T-Codes
a) Initializtion
LBWE: Maintain Extract Structure, DataSource, Active Status, Job Control, Update Mode
SBIW, then follow tree menu path: Settings for App-Specific DS(PI) -> Logistics -> Managing Extract Structures -> Initialization -> App-Specific Setup of Statistical Data -> Choose XX Application -> Delete/Fill Setup(reconstructing) Table content
RSA3: Check content of setup table
b) Delta upload
SM13: Display update table/Extraction Queue content
RSA7: Display Delta Queue content
Edited by: Tapashi Saha on Jul 24, 2008 7:33 AM -
BW Setup table filling for Billing
Hi
We are trying to fill the setup table for the Billing application (13).
When we execute the Tcode OLI9BW to fill the setup table, we are prompted to fill in the Info-structure name.
When we fill in S262 (SD - billing doc) we are receiving error - "No updating active for information structure."
Now I have 2 queries:
1 - When I am using LO cockpit, why is it asking me to fill in Info strucure which is an old concept of LIS.
2 - If anyways I have to fill then what should I give in the Info-structue.
Please suggest.Hi,
First you will activate SD Billing Data sources (2LIS_13_VDITM . etc ) in LBWE and RSA5. select the your update mode in LBWE. After that delete your Application u2013 13 setup table and Initialize the setup table .
Regards,
Krishna. -
Extractors/ Setup Tables for Master Data
Hi Experts,
I am not sure if the extractor enhancement methods, setup table initialisation for Master Data different from transaction data.
I am trying to do a delta init with initialisation of Setup table (OLI7BW) for 0CUSTOMER_ATTR. And I am not able to see any records in RSA7. Althought RSA3 shows 10 data packets and 1000 records.
What does that mean.
What I want to achieve is all the records a fresh for a few master data datasources since they were refreshed last month. Since then they were not being used.
Kindly help me as soon as possible.
Thanks in advance.Hi Priya,
I am not sure if the extractor enhancement methods, setup table initialisation for Master Data different from transaction data. -
For your information there is no conecpt of intialisation for master data.
I am trying to do a delta init with initialisation of Setup table (OLI7BW) for 0CUSTOMER_ATTR. And I am not able to see any records in RSA7. Althought RSA3 shows 10 data packets and 1000 records.
What does that mean.
As said there will be no setup tbale concepts for masterdata, the changes for masterdata follows the delta pointer concept(i.e whenever changes to standard masterdata table happens the message class trigger the delta pointer for those changed records and post in RSA7).So always u see in RSA7 the changed records for masterdata tables
What I want to achieve is all the records a fresh for a few master data datasources since they were refreshed last month. Since then they were not being used.
i didn't get abt this question can u eloborate
let me know if i answered ur queries -
Fill setup table 2LIS_03_BX and 2LIS_03_BF at same time
Hi Guys,
Can someone tell me whether I can run background Job to fill setup table of 2LIS_03_BX and 2LIS_03_BF at the same time?
By the way, whether I can run background job by different sever using different filters(site range A, B, C) to filling setup table of 2LIS_03_BX?
Thanks.
Regards,
RojayHi Rajesh,
All three data source have setup table concept.
LO extraction means you should fill the setup tables.
2LIS_03_BX (Stock Initialization for Inventory Management)
2LIS_03_BF (Goods Movements from Inventory Management)
2LIS_03_UM (Revaluations) - captures revaluation data.
please refer the below document for your reference.
SAP BW - Inventory data loading step by step(0IC_C03)
Inventory Data Loading (MM) to BW PRD system
Thanks,
Phani. -
Error while filling setup table
Hello all
I am trying to fill a setup table for 2lis_11_vahdr DS. I deleted setup table firts using LBWG and then proceeded the setup process by using OLI7BW , while i did that i got an error message "Error determing rate:foreign curr.DEM local curr.EUR date 02.01.1997(doc 4969)"
could anyone tell me what this error is referring to ?
thanksHi DK.............
I also think this is a problem of Exchange rate only..............maintain the exchange rate in SPRO >> General Settings >> Enter Exchange Rates.(Tcode : OB08 )
Exchange rate table is TCURR.
Exchange rates are maintained in r/3 and transfer to bw.................rsa1>>source system>>r/3 source system>>right click Transfer...........
Regards,
Debjani........... -
Error while Filling a setup table
Hi,
While i filling a setup table, i got this error message,
"Error determining Rate:foreign curr .local curr
INR date 27.06.2007 (doc.8166) "
any body tell me the meaning of this and how to rectify it.
-Arun.M.DHello Arun
You are getting this error because Currency Exchange Rate is not being loaded to your system for INR. Ask FI team to maintain this.
Reward points if it is helpfull.
Thanks
Tripple k -
Enhancing the standard Data source without deleting setup tables
Hi all,
I am in the the Support Project. My requirement is I want to Enhance u201C2LIS_13_VDITMu201D LO- data source with two fields without disturbing the delta.
Please suggest me how I have to do this.
As Per my Knowledge ,
1. we have to delete setup tables
2. Enhance the data source & re populate the setup tables.
3. Delete the data in the cube & add the two new fields in the cube & repopulate the cube with new Initial .
4. after that delta will be enabled through job control.
But this process is not suitable for our requirement because delta was enabled long back it is going very smooth till date, I donu2019t want to disturb that process.
So please suggest me is there any other procedure to do this.
Thanks,
Kiran ManyamHi,
If historical data (loaded earlier in to BW) are not required for the two enhance field, then it is not required to deleted the setup table and reload them to BI.
In this case simply you can follow the following procedure.
1. Enhance the fields, and update the transfor structure(to unhide these fields). In BI update the required data target with respective IO. and in exit populate the enhance fields. No need to disturb the delta
2. Replicated the DS in BI and do the mappings in tranformation.
Here the existing delta is working, and you will be populating the two fields in the exit only.
Thanks,
Jugal. -
HI,
TO ALL BW GURUS,
I WANT TO KNOW THE ARCHITECTURE OF SETUP TABLES.
WHAT IS THE MAIN DIFF'S BETWEEN NORMAL TABLES AND POOLED AND CLUSTERED TABLES.
2.
WHAT IS PSEUDODELTA.
WHERE IT IS USED AND WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS DELTA.
THANKS
ANAND.Hi,
check the beow link for table types:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/81/415d363640933fe10000009b38f839/frameset.htm
regards,
raju -
Data not seen in RSA3 after setup table was filled
HI
We have an issue where we do not see data for Sales Orders and Deliveries in RSA3 (and hence is missing in BW).
For sales orders we are missing 6 months' data and for Deliveries we are missing data from june to october 2007.
We checked the sales order and delivery documents in R/3 and they exist for the above date ranges. We deleted and filled up the setup tables. But still don't see the data in RSA3.
There were no extractor changes done.
Any tips?
Thanks
PoojaGo to SE11 and search for setup and look for the specific data source and see the content, if the content is actually zero, then there is nothing in the setup table.
thanks.
Wond
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