Condition Types : Calculation Type Change from A (percentage) to B (fixed )

Dear All,
We created a condition type (Calculation Type : A (percentage) ) and assigned access sequence and maintained in pricing procedure but later decided to change the calculation type to B (Fixed Amount) on this condition type.
I am wondering, what impact it will have ?? Can I simple change the calculation type on this condition type or should I take care of any thing else ??
Let me know, What things I have to take care of. Thanking you.
Anu.

Hi Anu,
No need of worry if it is independent condition type, means other conditions are not depending on it OR it is not depending on others.
Also check the condition records if they have any impact.
Else not a big issue, simply go ahead.

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