Configuration of Hard Drives & Workflow.

It's time for some spring cleaning. I have just added a 3rd external hard drive. I am pondering my storage layout and workflow.
I edit on a 2010 MBP, the hard drives are 1 500 GB, 1 TB and 1 2TB drives. All of the drives have a eSTATA connection and 2 also have firewire 800 ports. I have an express card for the eSTATA, but don't know how or if I can daisy chain these drives that way. The 2 with firewire ports have 2 ports each so I can link them by getting another firewire cable.
I mostly use FCE and Aperture.
My plan right now is to use the 500 GB for Time Machine. Maybe the 1TB for Aperture Referenced Masters and then the 2 TB for FCE scratch drive.
Any suggestions?
I'll save my work flow steam lining for another post after I get the drive layout resolved.

With eSata not going to be an option for all 3 drives. I'll use eSATA for the 2 TB and daisy-chain the other 2 with FW800
I'll use the 500GB for Time Machine, but which would be the better plan?
A) Put stills on the 1TB and use the 2TB for FCE scratch drive and back up the compressed camera data on DVD's
B) Use the 1 TB for camera data and then either folders or partition the 2TB for camera imports and FCE scratch drives,
In either plan the AVCHD files get converted at log and transfer and the h264 data gets converted via 3rd party conversion software. In both cases the converted files end up on the scratch drive.
I should also mention that I plan to use QT not self contained exports and keep them on the internal drive. I am currently keeping disk images of finished projects on an external hard drive, unsure what to do with them. maybe I need an other drive or not bother with saving disk images ?

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~/Library/Application Support/Logic/Sampler Instruments
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All in all it was fairly painless and now I have my content split.
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Is this consistant? Are you able to reconnect your offline media? Does this happen only with your G-Raid?
Can you please describe your workflow for me? Especially what your "target" is once you submit your clips from compressor. I think this is what's holding me up.
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ribbon which used to be in my Beige G3/300MT and it
is about 140 cms long (For the normal people here, that's 52 inches) (purchased in a PC store),
and not only. It is a 40-wire cable, not an 80.
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The IDE startup drive had a much shorter ribbon, also
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burner), and now sits in a drawer awaiting new
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Downloaded Yosemite and since then cannot connect to internet or bluetooth mouse - was advised to delete system configuration file from the hard drive and since then cannot start up computer. Any help would be appreciated - cheers.

Boot the MBP with the OPTION+COMMAND+R keys down. The result should be a display showing a revolving globe. By following the instructions, you will be able to reinstall the original OSX. Then you may reinstall Yosemite.
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