Configuring receiver determination with multiple messages in BPM

I am configuring a BPM scenario which uses 3 abstract interfaces, one for receiving, 2 for sending. I need 2 abstract interfaces while sending because they use different message types. I have created a Receiver Determination for the 1st interface, but the problem is that when I try to create the second Receiver Determination the 2nd abstract interface is not listed after I select the Integration Process. Just the 1st interface is listed under the Integration Process. What might be the problem?

Did you try to delete and reimport the BPM with the same name ?
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