Configuring the Synchronous scenario in XI
Hello everyone!
I want to configure a "Synchronous" scenario wherein when XI sends a message to a Marketsite, it waits for a response, then send back the response to the SAP system.
My question is this, would I need to configure a "sender adapter" in order to pick up the response, or will the response fire back automatically as long as I have configured my message interfaces as "synchronous"?
What might I need to add in the Integration Directory in order to make the synchronous scenario work?
Warm regards,
Glenn
In this case you want a response back from file. This is not possible as file adapter does not support sync scenario.
If you use the adapter that supports sync scenario like RFC, SOAP etc, then you have to create interfaces as follows:
Outbound Synchronous interface for sender to XI
Inbound Synchronous for XI to receiver.
In each of the interface you have to specify the request and response message types.
if it helpful reward points are appreciated
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Hi All,
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Let me put it in detail steps:
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> I have queries reg Advanced Adapter Engine (AAE):
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> 1) Can we do the Synchronous scenarios through AAE.
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>
> 2) How can i do the IDOC serialization. How AAE helps in that.
>
> Am using PI 7.3 ...Can you please mention the possibilites for the above queries.
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> Thank you!!
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We have a File to RFC synchronous scenario. Till yesterday night it is working fine.
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components.
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I have been following the link and Bhavesh Kantilal document.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw73/helpdata/en/44/7b7171fde93673e10000000a114a6b/content.htm?frameset=/en/44/7b7855fde93673e10000000a114a6b/f
rameset.htm¤t_toc=/en/ca/b977f1c7814201954f20bb87ad7aab/plain.htm&node_id=71
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Hi,
<br /><br />Apologies for the length of this post but I'm sure this is an area most of you have thought about in your journey with SAP PI.
<br /><br />We have recently upgraded our SAP PI system from 7.0 to 7.1 and I'd like to document best practice guidelines for our internal development team to follow.
I'd be grateful for any feedback related to my thoughts below which may help to consolidate my knowledge to date.
<br /><br />Prior to the upgrade we have implemented a number of synchronous and asynchronous scenarios using SAP PI as the hub at runtime using the Integration Directory configuration.
No interfaces to date are exposes directly from our backend systems using transaction SOAMANAGER.
<br /><br />Our asynchronous scenarios operate through the SAP PI hub at runtime which builds in resilience and harnesses the benefits of the queue-based approach.
<br /><br />My queries relate to the implementation of synchronous scenarios where there is no mapping or routing requirement. Perhaps it's best that I outline my experience/thoughts on the 3 options and summarise my queries/concerns that people may be able to advise upon afterwards.
<br /><br />1) Use SAP PI Integration Directory. I appreciate going through SAP PI at runtime is not necessary and adds latency to the process but the monitoring capability in transaction SXMB_MONI provide full access for audit purposes and we have implemented alerting running hourly so all process errors are raised and we handle accordingly. In our SAP PI Production system we have a full record of sync messages recorded while these don't show in the backend system as we don't have propogation turned on. When we first looked at this, the reduction in speed seemed to be outweighed by the quality of the monitoring/alerting given none of the processes are particularly intensive and don't require instant responses. We have some inbound interfaces called by two sender systems so we have the overhead of maintaing the Integration Repository/Directory design/configuration twice for these systems but the nice thing is SXMB_MONI shows which system sent the message. Extra work but seemingly for improved visibility of the process. I'm not suggesting this is the correct long term approach but states where we are currently.
<br /><br />2) Use the Advanced Adapter Engine. I've heard mixed reviews about this functionaslity, there areh obvious improvements in speed by avoiding the ABAP stack on the SAP PI server at runtime, but some people have complained about the lack of SXMB_MONI support. I don't know if this is still the case as we're at SAP PI 7.1 EHP1 but I plan to test and evaluate once Basis have set up the pre-requisite RFC etc.
<br /><br />3) Use the backend system's SOAP runtime and SOAMANAGER. Using this option I can still model inbound interfaces in SAP PI but expose these using transaction SOAMANAGER in the backend ABAP system. [I would have tested out the direct P2P connection option but our backend systems are still at Netweaver 7.0 and this option is not supported until 7.1 so that's out for now.] The clear benefits of exposing the service directly from the backend system is obviously performance which in some of our planned processes would be desirable. My understanding is that the logging/tracing options in SOAMANAGER have to be switched on while you investigate so there is no automatic recording of interface detail for retrospective review.
<br /><br />Queries:
<br /><br />I have the feeling that there is no clear cut answer to which of the options you select from above but the decision should be based upon the requirements.
<br /><br />I'm curious to understand SAPs intention with these options -
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<br /><br />- Not only does option 3 offer the best performance, but the generated WSDL is ready once built for any further system to implement thereby offering the maximum benefit of SOA, therefore should we always use option 3 whenever possible?
<br /><br />- Is it intended that the AAE runtime should be used when available but only for asynchronous scenarios or those requiring SAP PI functionality like mapping/routing otherwise customers should use option 3? I accept there are some areas of functionality not yet supported with the AAE so that would be another factor.
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<br /><br />Alan
Edited by: Alan Cecchini on Aug 19, 2010 11:48 AM
Edited by: Alan Cecchini on Aug 19, 2010 11:50 AM
Edited by: Alan Cecchini on Aug 20, 2010 12:11 PMHi Aaron,
I was hoping for a better more concrete answer to my questions.
I've had discussion with a number of experienced SAP developers and read many articles.
There is no definitive paper that sets out the best approach here but I have gleaned the following key points:
- Make interfaces asynchronous whenever possible to reduce system dependencies and improve the user experience (e.g. by eliminating wait times when they are not essential, such as by sending them an email with confirmation details rather than waiting for the server to respond)
- It is the responsibility of the client to handle errors in synchronous scenarios hence monitoring lost through P-P services compared to the details information in transaction SXMB_MONI for PI services is not such a big issue. You can always turn on monitoring in SOAMANAGER to trace errors if need be.
- Choice of integration technique varies considerably by release level (for PI and Netweaver) so system landscape will be a significant factor. For example, we have some systems on Netweaver 7.0 and other on 7.1. As you need 7.1 for direction connection PI services we'd rather wait until all systems are at the higher level than have mixed usage in our landscape - it is already complex enough.
- We've not tried the AAE option in a Production scenarios yet but this is only really important for high volume interfaces, something that is not a concern at the moment. Obviously cumulative performance may be an issue in time so we plan to start looking at AAE soon.
Hope these comments may be useful.
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Hi all,
I got a question concerning the use of fault messages in
synchronous scenarios...
1. When I define a fault message for my synchronous
receiver interface, a fault message, coming back
would not be handled by my sync. Interface- and
Messagemapping, right?
So how can I give the fault messageinformation back to
the sender?
2. Will I have to define a second scenario for handling
the fault message?
(Meaning new Communication Channel, MI, IM, MM and so
on)
Thanks for help, anwers are quickly rewarded...
Daniel> 1. When I define a fault message for my synchronous
>
> receiver interface, a fault message, coming back
> would not be handled by my sync. Interface- and
> Messagemapping, right?
> So how can I give the fault messageinformation
> ion back to
> the sender?
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> 2. Will I have to define a second scenario for
> handling
> the fault message?
> (Meaning new Communication Channel, MI, IM, MM and
> and so
> on)
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Now i have look through the sap lib about the http sender adapter
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http://hostname:port/path?namespace=<...>
&interface=<...>&service=<...>&cmd=T&loaderXML=< message object >&end=yes
My questions are:
1)the path in the URL is "/sap/xi/adapter_plain", if not, what is it?
2)the message payload is right?
any reply is appreciated
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For a HHTP Scenario:
DESIGN:
1. Create DataTypes for source and Destinations. Create elements for all the text fields of your HTTP Client so that they can all be mapped into the destination file
2. Create MessageTypes for the two datatypes.
3. Create Message Interfaces. The One for HTTP is the sender, Asynchronous ( as no response is expected) and one for File is receiver, asynchronous.
4. Do the mapping. It will be mostly a one to one mapping of the fields.
5. Create the Interface Mapping.
Configuration:
1. Import your Business System under your Configuration Scenario.
2. Create 2 communication channels. One for Http as a sender and one for your receiver say IDoc.
Check these links for the configuration part.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/43/64db4daf9f30b4e10000000a11466f/content.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/bc/bb79d6061007419a081e58cbeaaf28/content.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/44/79973cc73af456e10000000a114084/content.htm
3. Do the Receiver Agreement for Idoc. HTTP doesnt need a sender agreement.
4. DO the Receiver Determination and Interface Determination.
Weblog which talk about the same scenario:-
/people/sriram.vasudevan3/blog/2005/01/11/demonstrating-use-of-synchronous-asynchronous-bridge-to-integrate-synchronous-and-asynchronous-systems-using-ccbpm-in-sap-xi - although this weblog is
aimed at explaining the sync-async bridge.. Sriram has taken http-to-file scenario as the example
(use case) and explained it...
Check this SDN tv demo, it has detail of HTTP adapter setup.
https://media.sdn.sap.com/SDNTV/main.asp?mediaId=107
Refer to this link for adapter settings.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/0d/5ab43b274a960de10000000a114084/frameset.htm
You should also have a HTTP client to send message to XI. In the connecting parameters to XI u have to use the URL in the pattern mentioned . U have to give all the configuration details in the URL.
If you give me your mail id or if you can mail me at [email protected], i can send you a HTTP CLIENT.....In which you need to view the source code and change the username and password to send message to XI.
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We have an IDOC to SOAP synchronous scenario in which IDOCs are sent to SOAP by calling a service and then SOAP sends a response back to XI . The response is not sent to SAP- R3. Please suggest on this
ThanksHello Rajesh,
Thanks for your good justification.
Here I have also replicated same kind of scenario and having same kind of issue.
One thing just wanted to confirm - Even though SOAP adapter expects HTTP 200 response back from webservice, still SOAP channel is getting into red with following , and as we have Alert configured ...Alert mail also receiving as part of Error only. So How can we avoid that response ? Is there have any parameter to handle or suppress the response back?
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Hi Experts,
I have a
SOAP -
XI -
PROXY Synchronous Scenario
I have done the following things ESR and ID
ESR:
1. Created DT and respective MT for Request and Response.
2. Created Service Interfaces with Synchronous mode with respective MT's.
3. Created Two separate MM with respective Request and Response MT's.
4. Created Operation Mapping and call both Request and Response Mappings in it.
Integration Directory (ID):
1. Configured considering Sender SOAP and Receiver ECC Services.
2. Configured CC with required parameters in Sender SOAP CC and Receiver XI CC.
3. Generate wsdl from Sender agreement and save it as a local file.
I am getting error in receiver agreement. Do I need to specify any Module parameters in Module TAB for Sender CC or Receiver CC to synchronous scenario.
Please hep me out.
ThanksHi Ram,
I am getting error in receiver agreement. Do I need to specify any Module parameters in Module TAB for Sender CC or Receiver CC to synchronous scenario.
It looks like you did not create a receiver agreement, or if you did, it did not match the interface that is given or configured in Interface Determination. Can you recheck your configuration?
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