Configuring the WRVS4400N v2 to operate with a wireless bridge

I have a Motorola WRG850G wireless router setup as a wireless bridge (router functions disabled). The SSID, channel number & security options are set identical to the WRVS. I assigned it a static IP address of 192.168.10.148. My WRVS is 192.168.10.1. The DHCP addressing range is set to 192.168.10.100 through 192.168.10.149. I have not been able to get this bridge to connect to the WRSV. Any suggestions? Thanks

Thanks for the response. For configuration purposes, both devices are in the same room. Both devices are using the latest firmware. The security settings for both are WPA2, AES encryption with a passphrase. I read elsewhere about various successes and failures with wireless bridging and different security settings. Should this be a concern here due to the age difference between my WRVS4400N and my Motorola WR850G?

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3. Connecting to Exchange
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Wireless and EDGE Connectivity
The wireless capabilities of the iPhone are, on the surface at least, excellent. It connects seamlessly to unsecured networks, offers the option of prompted or unprompted automatic connectivity, and is capable of 802.11G performance. Not bad for such a small package. However, it is very limited in the forms of secure network access it supports. These are, to quote Apple’s website; (and my iPhone)
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After about 2 seconds, I realized that while I did indeed have a connection, I couldn’t do anything with it. Couldn’t even browse to an internal site via IP address. The connection was up, the connection was working, the connection was useless.
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In the Mail program on the iPhone, the first time you launch it, you’re presented with the ability to configure an email source. However on subsequent or additional accounts, you must go under Settings, Mail to get to this functionality.
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Now for the problems with this solution;
First of all, it depends upon VPN access into your environment, something that you may or may not be comfortable with. One good thing is that the iPhone does prompt for password to reconnect, and will tie the continuity of the VPN connection into the general phone lock security, such that an inability to provide the appropriate access code to a locked phone results in the VPN not being accessible.
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The best cure for this is to simply stop and restart the VPN connection. Note that when you reconnect, the first attempt will prompt you for a numeric password, this is meaningless unless you have the device lock turned on. Just enter anything. (I think this is another bug) THEN it will re-prompt you for your real VPN password.
This solution for email delivery is obviously dependant upon the VPN connection being active. I’ve noticed that at times the iPhone will disconnect the VPN (probably when service switching) and not bother to mention it. When that happens, of course the VPN must be restarted.
For the lazy, this is an inconvenient solution because while it would appear that the iPhone will cache the VPN password, in fact it will not. That means that each re-launch requires that you re-enter your password. Not terrible for me, but I could see it being very tedious for the average corporate user.
The OSX Mail client has several little deficiencies, which may or may not impact your use of the device in this manner. For instance, if you have subfolders defined for your inbox, and server side rules to move mail into them, then you will not see any synchronization of that mail until you actually select the subfolder. Also, since there is such poor management of attachments and downloads, moving anything around via email on this device is nigh on impossible.
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In Conclusion
This solution is not for the faint of heart, it doesn’t work all that well, and it has way too many moving parts that are subject to failure. However, I would say that this solution is serviceable for the corporate technology professional who needs email, and really, REALLY wants the other features of the iPhone. (ie, phone whores such as me.) It requires patience, it requires an understanding that this is not a 100% thing, and there definitely needs to be a prebuilt expectation that this device will not serve your email in anything approaching the manner to which you’ve become accustomed.
As long as all of that is okay though, then go right ahead, set it up, and enjoy!
The Short Version;
(I put this at the end because I want everyone to feel my pain!)
Wireless:
Use unsecured wireless or EDGE. Secured wireless may be serviceable as long as the SSID is broadcast, but there are known issues with this.
VPN:
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The BIG Disclaimer at the End
Please note that all of this is provided ‘as is’. It worked for me, and I hope it works for you. To my knowledge, it’s not endorsed by Apple, and I’m not in the business of providing support for this thing. If it breaks something, if it doesn’t work, or if you simply don’t like it or me, I don’t care. However, if you have a question, and I’m not busy, and I feel like answering, I may lend a hand. You can email me at
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Don’t be surprised or offended if I don’t answer. Also, understand that I don’t check this address every day… Maybe a couple times a week.
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Thanks, now I understand why the wifi keeps dropping. On my personal wireless network, it also seems the distance from the access point is not good compared to my laptop. At work our network & exchange teams don't seem to have the desire to struggle with this "toy" until customers start forcing its adoption. I am using OWA and it works fine over EDGE. I will share your posting with them.
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