Confirmation of parallel sequence operation.

Hello friends,
I want to do confirmation of parallel sequence operation. I use 3 or5 work centers at a time for doing one operation. So i have defined parallel sequences for standard sequence. When I do confirmation of quantity and activity time in CO11N for one parallel sequence, other sequence quantity and activity time should be decreased. But system takes actual quantity and time.
How to make settings , so that quantity and activity values should be decreased automatically for next parallel sequence.
Waiting for Reply!

Dear ,
You are not able get the paralle sequence operation in CO11N because production order will copy the Routing based on the Order Type dependent paramter-OPL8-Routing set up.
Here , basically , you might have chkeced Alternative Sequence and Sequence Exchange field (0) , so while creation production order , routing with operation which are in alternative sequnce will be copied and will be used in CO11N confirmation.
2.You need to maintain "Operation Sequence is not checked " for operation sequence for the Ordertype/Plant combination in confirmation parameters using transaction OPK4.-Confirmation parameters of Order
Try and revert back
Regards]
JH

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