Confirmations in Collective Orders

Hello PP Experts.
I have a specific question about collective orders.
When I carry out a confirmation at suboperation level (CO11N/COR6N), I wold like to know if is possible change the Activity values for a subordinate production order.
Molina

Hi Flavio,
Confirmations of Collective Orders CO11N you can change the activity duration of operations of subordinate orders.
Regards,
R.Brahmankar

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Automatic Sub Order confirmation in Collective Order

Hello, I am using collective order, and have the 'HEADER' order and all child orders released. Our requirement is that once the Main Header order is reported confirmed, ALL child production orders should be auto confirmed as well. (we could have MANY child orders under the header order). I tried using the OPKI setting for collective entry to 'Order Header' but it is greyed out in the change mode during config. Any thoughts will be much appreciated.

If you're doing the confirmation of parent order (leading order) at header level (meaning you use CO15) then you can only confirm that particular order and not any child order. If you want the child orders to be confirmed also after completely confirming you'd have to change the control key of last operation of routing in leading material as milestone and use CO11 or CO11N and just confirm the last operation, it will automatically confirm all the operations in the leading order and all the sub orders (child orders). I don't think your OPKI setting will solve the issue.
Production orders that belong to collective orders are generally confirmed like normal production orders. However, you should note the following:
    When you carry out a confirmation at header or suboperation level, you can only confirm the order concerned.
    When you confirm at operation level, you can confirm operations for all orders as long as you work with milestone operations or progress confirmations.
    When there is a confirmation in the collective order, the system sets the status CFCO (release occurred in network) at the header level of the leading order in the collective order.
If you want to read more than what I mentioned, you go to this link

COGI error generated while collective order confirmation

hi ALL, this is the real task for all PP GURUS.
the issue is related with collective order confirmation.
client is using customised program ZPP_CONF to confirm the collective order which is based on the sap spro program CORUPROC.this include automatic goods receipt,backflush & actual cost update .as user use zpp_conf for confirmation all this actions happened in backgruond.
now after using ZPP_CONF . the confirmation is not happening .instead of that it is going in COGI where they are getting a error massage which is as follows
"You have no authorization for this transaction with movement type 101u201D
this error continues for 10-15 minutes after doing refresh it goes. & confirmation happens.
this is not happening for all orders but for 8 out of 10.
users have proper authorisations.
they have enough stocks in st. locn.
they are loosing lot of time becuse of this.
HOW CAN I RECTIFY THIS ERROR GURUS?
when i search i found this is written in the CORUPROC documentation
Incl. incorrect goods movement: Not only preselected but also incorrect goods movements that are usually processed with transaction COGI are selected and processed.
VENKADESH

Hi,
The Program CORUPROC only can adjust the Errors in Goods movements. It can not handle the Table Locks..
The Program CORUAFWP, can taek care of table locks also, apart from the Errors in Goods Movements.
Refer below thread for similar type of problem..
COGI errors
Hope this helps..
Regards,
Siva

How to trigger creation of collective orders

Hi,
How to trigger the creation of Collective orders.
regards

Hi,
Collective Orders
Use
In a collective order, planned orders or production orders are linked to one another over several production levels. Each order in the collective order has its own order number. If subassemblies are produced directly for superior orders within a production process, without physically entering the warehouse, it is useful to have a representation via collective orders.
The components for which separate production orders are created in the collective order are called directly produced components (see Creating Collective Orders)
Prerequisites
A collective order cannot be created for components that have one of the following indicators set:
· Co-product
· By-product
· Alternative item with strategy 2
· Alternative item with usage probability 0
· Discontinued
· Follow-up material
· Intra material
Features
Collective orders offer the following advantages:
· Integrated view of a production process
Collective orders make it possible to represent different levels of the production process together in the system. The production process can be viewed as an integrated whole.
· Separate order number for every order
Every level in a collective order represents a separate production order/planned order. Every production order/planned order has its own order number. This enables you to process the entire collective order, a subtree in the collective order or an individual order.
· No placements in storage or removals from storage between production levels
Within a collective order stock movements only take place for the leading order (that is, the order that is at the highest production level) and not for directly produced components. This makes it easier to maintain the collective order in comparison with several individual orders. A further advantage is a more realistic representation of the costs of the production process, since subordinate orders can be directly assigned and settled to superior orders.
· Business functions simultaneously for several orders
Certain business transactions can be carried out simultaneously for several orders. Releasing an order that belongs to a collective order has the effect that all the hierarchically subordinate orders are released simultaneously.
· Automatic change to dependent orders
Changes to an order automatically affect dependent orders / components affecting orders. For example, if you change the order quantity in an order then
¡ the relevant quantity changes are automatically made to dependent orders
¡ the requirements quantity of the directly produced component is automatically changed.
In the collective order, you also have the option of manufacturing directly produced material in a different plant to the planning plant.
· Set status in leading order
If you make changes in subordinate orders that have an affect on the status, then the system sets the corresponding status in the order header of the leading order in the collective order as follows:
u2013 CFCO Confirmation in collective order
u2013 GMCO Goods movements in collective order
u2013 RLNE Release taken place in network
In this way you are informed about changes in the whole collective order.
· Reading master data
You can copy the routing data and BOM data to the order again. You can find more information in Read master data.
Example
You want to produce a pump. The BOM for the pump contains a pressure regulating valve and a spiral casing. You want to enter these two components in separate production orders, but you do not want them to be posted to stock.
You set the special procurement type to direct production in the material master record for the pressure regulating valve and the spiral casing, so that production occurs using a collective order.
When you create a production order for the pump, a collective order is automatically created, which contains subordinate production orders for the pressure regulating valve and the spiral casing.
Creation of Collective Orders
Use
Collective orders are only created if the special procurement type is set to direct production in the components for which the separate production orders are to be created (materials planning area in the material master).
In the standard system, 52 is the special procurement type for direct production (that is, for components that are produced within a collective order).
To create a collective order, you must use an order type with internal number assignment.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Tejas

Collective confirmation of process orders

COR6N - Confirmation of Process Orders phase wise
But i need the tcode to confirm all the phases of process orders at one stretch.
Also tell me tcode to do collective confirmation of process order

Hi,
Pls Try CORR for Process order,
CO12 for Production Order
Regards,
Pavan

Collective order confirmation for particular codes

Hi
I have problem for some material codes while production order confirmation.The material codes that starts with Sxxxxxxxxxxxxxx this number are not getting confirmed. Others are get confirmed without any issue.
Production order confirmation is not working for that particular material code.
Please guide me what solution should I give to the customer.
BR
Sagar

Hi
This is the error message. and one more thing this is a collective order and this is happening for parent order while child order is confirmed correctly.Goods movement is done through CO27 and confirmation is done with CO11
BR
Sagar

Goods receipt in collective order

Hi Experts,
In collective order situation, for the the child order, after confirmation the stock of SFG is not increasing automatically. Subsequently, after confirmation of parent order, in the material tab the SFG withdrawn quantity is showing up as zero. How to ensure that consumption of SFG occurs in the parent order ?
regards

SM,
Please refer the below thread,
Re: direct production
In case of collective order scenario the goods movement of the child items are hypothetical, i.e. it is for document purpose.
The stock doesn't get built up if you go for confirmation with auto GR.
Rather as soon as you confirm the last operation or you go for the order confirmation the goods receipt on the child order & goods issue on the parent order happens simultaneously.
Hope this helps you.
SmanS

Collective orders header order basic finish date is not changing

Hai all,
I am working on collective orders. The header order has Basic finish date as 17.05.2011 . Now i have changed this date to 10.05.2011 and re scheduled the order . But again system changing the Basic finish date to 17.05.2011. how to solve this.
In the outline dates also i have given finish date 10.05.2011 it is remaining the same but order Basic finish date is not changing and schedulded dates are also not changing. can anybody help.

Hi gurus,
In a collective order suppose the lead order is having three child orders. Kindl
If one of the child order is partially confirmed is the entire collective order can be rescheduled.
If one of the child order is Fully confirmed is the entire collective order can be rescheduled
Can any body help me out

Direct production in collective order network, automatic 261...

hi all,
i have a problem in a schenario with collective order network.
i have order B part of collective order network of order A. and material of order B has special procurement key 52 maintained in it. and colletive order of goods movement is selected in order type setting of order B.
now the problem is when i confirm the order B, its header material automatically gets issued to order A (as per the settings that is fine.. ).
but when i canel \ reverse the order A, i can not see 262 for material of order B which was issued automatically....??? why so?
and if i try to revrse order B, it stucs in COGI with the error of deficit of sales order quantity (or unrestricted quantity)....
can somebody tell me how to sollve this? how to get 262 of the header material of order B?
best regards,
Maulin
Edited by: Maulin Munshi on Jun 17, 2009 8:27 AM

If you're doing the confirmation of parent order (leading order) at header level (meaning you use CO15) then you can only confirm that particular order and not any child order. If you want the child orders to be confirmed also after completely confirming you'd have to change the control key of last operation of routing in leading material as milestone and use CO11 or CO11N and just confirm the last operation, it will automatically confirm all the operations in the leading order and all the sub orders (child orders). I don't think your OPKI setting will solve the issue.
Production orders that belong to collective orders are generally confirmed like normal production orders. However, you should note the following:
    When you carry out a confirmation at header or suboperation level, you can only confirm the order concerned.
    When you confirm at operation level, you can confirm operations for all orders as long as you work with milestone operations or progress confirmations.
    When there is a confirmation in the collective order, the system sets the status CFCO (release occurred in network) at the header level of the leading order in the collective order.
If you want to read more than what I mentioned, you go to this link

Collective Order Actual Activity Pricing

Hi Gurus
We are using collective orders for production orders. As you know collective processes are used for costing shared processes.
Let me explain the problem with an example: Say, we have product A and B to be produced. These two have shared operations and costs will be collected via collective orders by Tcode mill_oc.
The process is as below:
Production order 1 for product A. - Normal production order - CO01
Production order 2 for product B. - Normal production order - CO01
Production order 3 for product A - Collective production order - mill_oc
Confirmations are done for Order 3 during period. At the end of the period Order 3 is settled to Order 1 and Order 2 with certain proportions.
Actual activity price is calculated via Tcode:KSII. During CKMLCP the system valuates activities (posting price differences) for Order 3 product, Product A only. It must be the case that Product A and Product B have to be revaluated.
NOTE: Actual activity price is valuated in material ledger, rather in orders (not with CON2)
Is there any OSS notes or solution for this problem? If there is huge activity price differences, all the value is posted to just one product, which is collective orders product, rather than both lower level orders' products.
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Ahmet

Hi Ahmet,
This is rather a problem of material ledger multi-level settlement than of activity pricing. Material ledger will pick up the actual activity price correctly and will use the difference against the former activvity price as multi-level price difference on the production process. The problem is, if there are multiple outputs coming out of the process, as is resulting of the order combination process, material ledger will by default search for a apportionment structure (for joint production) in the material master of the main (or original) output material. As nothing will be maintained there, all the differences will go to this material.
You can overcome the situation by a BADI implementation of BADI cost_split. There should be an example implementation in your system (if you have the Mill Products add-on active, as is indicated because you use Mill_oc) that enables to distribute the price differences by quantity of the outputs of a process. If you don't find the example implementation I could provide it to you.
best regards,
Udo

Collective order problem

Hi gurus:
      I having a problem when I use collective order, discrible as below:
When I do the confirmation for the last operation of the subordinate order, it does not trigger the auto-GR and auto-GI to the parent order. What can be the possible reason?
      It worked well in past...
      Further, the "Collective order with/without automatic goods movement" indicator is NOT set for the order type we using.
BR
Kevin

Dear Vivek:
      Thanks for your kindly reply. Is the tick box you metioned "Coll.order with...." ?
If so, after I flagged it, new problem occur.
The first problem is the settlement receiver of the child order is incorrect . Now , the receiver is the Semi-FG which should be the parent order. But it was right before the change I made.
Another problem is the auto-GR always hold by the system which I can find it in CO1P. It worked well before the change
Any clue?   Thanks.
BR
Kevin

Direct production\ collective order cancellation

i have a problem while dealing with collective order network schenario.
i have 2 levels of collective order network e.g. A is parent order and B is child order.
now as soon as i confirm the sub\child B order the header material for taht perticular order has 101 and 261 movement automatically,
i.e. as soon as 101 is done for child order's(B) header material which is a non stockable material is also gets consumed(261) for header order\ parent order A.
but while confirming the header order A, the header material of order B(which is non stockable material) is not there in goods movement screen.
now while cancelling the orders A i don't have order B's header material in component list so that perticular material will not be cancelled so no 262 for that material.
now when i try to cancel order B i get an error for order B's header material that deficit of sales order stock.
how to deal with such problem?
and i also want to know something about collective orders and special procurement key 52 with respect to order confirmation and cancellation..
Edited by: Anil Jonnalagadda on May 23, 2008 3:38 PM

Now the Reply for the Application of Collective Order
Normally we have a Header Item Fert and Child items Halbs
For Example If a BOM for a Fert contains 5 Halb materials and below some ROH
Here what happens in discrete scenario 6 production orders can be created 1 for Fert and 5 for Halb
so as a usual practive we have Release the Halb orders, GI for ROH , Confirmation of Halbs,GR for Halbs,.... then
similar thing for Fert
Now as the Halb is inhouse item and manufacturing parellely, the process of Relasing ,confirming ,GR are difficult process, you want to control through the Header Material
So we want
1) If i release the Fert Material the Bom Assy components (inhouse) below with collective order setting has to Relases Automatically
2) If i confirm the Fert Material the the Bom Assy components (inhouse) below with collective order setting has to Confired Automatically
3) The GR has to takes place automatically for Halb items(without any document) you can't see the stock of halb also it will always show "0"
4) For the ROH below Halb a reservation will be generated those you can control manually or through Backflush
So the setting required is
Fert item keep Procurement =E
For the bom halb items where you want collective order keep Procurement =E and special Procurement =52
it will work
thanks
Prabakaran K
Edited by: prabakaran k on May 23, 2008 4:00 PM

Wip Calculation in Collective Order

Hello Sap Gurus,
We have created Collective Production orders in which when we are confirming order production will get automatically confirmed as consumption in superior order.
When we are calculating WIP for superior order, it is giving no values.
Can any one tell why this is happening ?

Dear,
You can check the good issue order wise from IW31.
Also refer my reply from these threads,
[Collective order|Re: Collective Order]
[Collective order GI|Re: Collective Order Processing]
Regards,
R.Brahmankar

Costs and Inventory posings in Direct Production / Collective order

We are trying to implement direct production though collective orders functionalty at our client.
We are using the right special procurement keys, order types (with collective order flag turned on) etc. I am able to generate the collective order tree and also see that the scheduling is working as expected.
However, when I post confirmation of child orders, I am not seeing any goods movements in the leading orders. Also, I donot see anycost in the leading order as well. Has anyone come across this issue ? Any thoughts / ideas willbe helpful?

Hi,
For the order type which you're using, go to OPJH & in the section Cost Controlling tick the check box which says Coll. order with goods movement
Create a new collective order & carry out your cycle. I would suggest do a test in your sandbox first.
Hope it clarifies.
Regards,
Vivek

Collective order - manuell booking

Hello all!
Is there a way to use collective orders without automatic booking, but with manual booking.
We like the idea of the linked production orders and the way it is handled. Our problem is,
that we need the semi-finished goods on stock. So we have to book them with MIGO.
Is there any other way to link the production orders and do physical bookings (like in every
standard production order)?
Thankful for all help,
Barbara

Hi,
In a collective order, goods movements (GI & GR) are usually not required for assemblies that are directly produced.
When u do the confirmation for Lower level order, Produed assemblies will be issued to Higher level order directly, so manual goods issue not possible for assemblies to Higher level order.
U can confirm this, with Higher level order cost analysis after the confirmation of lower level order.
So need not issue the produced assembly to higher level order using the MB1A.
Only thing u have to activate Collective order with goods movements object box for Order type at OPJH .
For Lower level order (Assembly order ) good issue for procured components of assembly can be done using MB1A with MVt type 261.
Dependencies :
For collective orders without automatic goods movements you must take organizational measures to ensure that the WIP calculation and the settlement of orders are each carried out twice. You cannot carry out a variance calculation for collective orders without automatic goods movements. You cannot carry out a standard cost calculation for a collective order without automatic goods movements.
You can find detailed information on collective orders in the document Cost object accounting -> Order-related Product Controlling.
Thanks,
Mohit

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