Conflicting answers on upgrading 10.3.9 to 10.5

I was at the Apple Store today and wanted to purchase OS X 10.5, but first asked if there would be a problem installing it on my iMac G5 as an upgrade from 10.3.9. The first person I spoke to said she thought I had to install 10.4 first; she was unsure and called over a second person, who said that really did have to get 10.4 before I could upgrade to 10.5. He said he thought there may be a way to upgrade directly to 10.5 but it involved "archiving" my current files first, and was very complicated. Of course, they both told me that Apple no longer sold 10.4 so I would have to get it from eBay or someplace. This seems ridiculous to me, so I searched here, and found a bunch of other people asking the same question -- and nobody giving a definitive answer!
I certainly can't see buying 10.4 just so I can immediately buy 10.5! There's nothing actually WRONG with my iMac, so I don't see why I should go to the expense of replacing it with a new model; I want to upgrade to 10.5 simply because it seems every program or peripheral on the market today says it requires OS X 10.4 at a minimum -- and if I'm going to upgrade, I would like the latest OS (even if I can't use every feature because I'm not on an Intel Mac). [One of the things I would like to get is an external HD so I can easily back up my files, and have simple access to music and photo files while getting them off my main HD, where they're eating up space. I see a bunch of answers on here saying you should always back up all your files before attempting an upgrade -- but of course, all the external HDs I see now require that you have 10.4 to use them! So the only way I can back up my files is to burn them all to CD.]
Anyway, I am really confused. I see people here saying as long as you meet the tech requirements for 10.5, upgrading is a snap. I see others saying it may be a problem to upgrade from 10.3.9. The people in the Apple Store said I needed 10.4 first. WHICH IS IT?
I have a 1.8 GHz PowerPC G5 with 1.25 GB DDR SDRAM. According to System Profiler, I have on Macintosh HD:
Capacity: 74.41 GB
Available: 31.52 GB

I contacted Western Digital by e-mail. Here's the exchange. Can you interpret what they're actually trying to say? When he says the drive has only been tested and guaranteed to work with 10.4.8, is that just a technicality to absolve them of any responsibility if it doesn't work?
Possibility of using the drive without using the software?
Discussion Thread
Customer (Jeffrey Morris)
11/15/2008 01:52 PM
I purchased the My Book but have not yet opened the package in the event I have to return it. I have an iMac G5 which is still using OS X 10.3.9. I know that the My Book requires 10.4.11. However, I was advised at a Mac forum that the OS compatibility for external drives refers to the software, not the drive itself. But, this did not take into account the fact that, apparently (according to the specs I checked online) your drive does not come with a software disk, but loads the software automatically when it is plugged in to the computer.
I actually want to upgrade my iMac's OS to 10.5, specifically because peripherals such as this one, as well as software programs, all now require at least 10.4. However, I was also advised to do a complete backup of my files before attempting such an upgrade. I figured if I could use the drive without the software, it would make sense to get it now and use it to backup my files, and then install 10.5. But, since your drive automatically loads its software, I am now not sure if there is any way to do this. I was told that at the Mac forum that it might be possible to "Force Quit the WD installer as soon as it begins running, then use Disk Utility to format the drive (which will erase the WD software and its installer)." This sounds like a potentially dangerous approach, so I am hoping YOU can tell me if I have any options here. If I were to do that, would I then be able to download the WD software and re-install it later, after I install OS X 10.5? Or would doing any of this mess up the drive and void the warranty? Please advise!
Response (Wascar R.)
11/17/2008 10:43 AM
Dear Jeffrey,
Thank you for contacting Western Digital Customer Service and Support.
The My Book Home Edition drive may work with your iMAC G5 but, unfortunately, there is not guarantee that the drive will work with MAC OS 10.3.9 since it's been only tested and guarantee to work on 10.4.8 or higher. Please try to do the upgrade first and then install the external drive.
As per the WD Anywhere Backup software, you can download it from the link below:
http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?groupid=111&sid=87⟨=en
Sincerely,
Wascar R.
Western Digital Service and Support
http://support.wdc.com

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