Conforming 1080p60 to 30fps in Cinema Tools?

Hi there. I'm trying to conform 1080p 60 video converted to .mov's in clip wrap, from the sony NEXea50 to 30 fps in cinema tools, and the conform tab is grayed out. I have never had this problem with 720p60... Does cinema tools not support conforming 1080p60 to 30 or 24fps? Does Clip wrap convert frame rates at all? Thanks...

Awesome, thanks for the reply!
Hmm, what do you think is best? In the essence of time, could I just xcode the original PAL 50fps 720 clips to pro res, conform to 25fps and work them into the XDCAM project sequence I've already started? Or will that create serious workflow issues for me? I don't have time to go back and re-xcode every clip (almost 100 GBs) to Pro Res before I show the client a rough edit.
Also, if it is better to just take the hit on time and re-xcode every clip to Pro Res, would I be able to easily reconnect all media to the newly coded ProRes files? Or would I lose all that work in the sequence?
Thanks again for the info!

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