Conforming and indexing.

All of a sudden, my project keeps indexing and conforming while I'm editing. Makes the process slow and un-editable. It was never this way before until this week. Is there something I can do to fix this? Thanks

Seems to be working better. Still some slownees with playback and "media pending,"
CS6 6.0.6
OS X 10.9.1
H.264 in a mpeg-4
Only with previews.

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    6) Adobe recommends not editing until the conforming and indexing has completed itself-- how important is this?
    7) Sometimes it appears as though the conforming and indexing has finished, but then I still have problems with playback. Do I have to reopen the project for it to continue with the conforming/indexing progress? I've already determined that the video file I'm working with is intact and free of any corruption.
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    Harm filled in pretty much all the salient details, but I'll do another pass here.
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    2) How do you know when indexing/conforming has completed itself? (there doesn't seem to be a progress log or a list of commands/executions)
    Nope, you have a progress status bar indicating which file it's working on.  If there's an error, it shows up in the events panel.
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    Like Harm said.  Totally dependant on the media container & the speed of your drive i/o.  The conforming is iterating through the entire file & pulling audio data, so it's not CPU intensive, it's all i/o.
    6) Adobe recommends not editing until the conforming and indexing has completed itself-- how important is this?
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    You should be good to go.  Sounds like there's something else at play here.
    Okay, back to what I think is wrong:  you don't mention what kind of external drives you're using.  You're making a bad assumption that blowing away conformed files & doing a reconform is buggy - I doubt it, as that's the same process that happened when you initially brought in the files.  I've blown away my media cache folder multiple times and have never seen failures on reconform.  So it's got to be one of two things:  either a read error from the source when attempting to pull the audio, or a write error to the destination.  Now I don't know where you currently are pointing the media cache directory, or what your source drive is, so I can only speculate.
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    Any time I click out of PP and then come back to the program from ANYWHERE (even the desktop), PP starts to conform my files.
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