Conforming EDL from DPX in Color

Hi,
I know I can import DPX into color quite easily but my problem is conforming EDL from DPX files.
Anyone was succesfull in doing this?
Thanks
Kamil

Yes. Many people are successful doing this, but not usually on the first attempt.
There are many pitfalls. Essentially its a lot like importing an EDL "Use as Cut List", but there are a lot of rules about how the dpx was created, header information (including timecode matches, etc.), and a number of other things. I don't find the Manuals particularly enlightening, but the topic is covered.
jPo

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Yes, I tried to find that forum and couldn't which is why I posted here, but since I have you on the line, and since you apparently have lots of experience with SG, can I ask you:
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subpaper clips.
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aaronfronk wrote:
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