Conforming hdv to tape errors

hi any help is appreciated
finished my hdv edit its 36minutes long
stunned by how great the hdv quality is ,
but when print to video ,it takes say 2 hours then it starts repeating itself ,i am now trying the copy and paste the timeline into a new sequence .
it was working last night but i pressed the space bar and stopped it ,and been trying ever since and getting more frustrated.
cheers
dg5dual2.7 Mac OS X (10.4.3)

Sounds normal actually. HDV is an MPEG compression, so it has to rebuild the "GOP" (Group of Pictures) structure of the edited piece before it can lay it back to tape. I'm afraid it's a long process...
Jerry

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Hi, I can't figure out why I can't render on my timeline. I highlight the segment hit "Apple-R" and it gives me a weird message about "conforming HDV video...." and the bar goes as far as 60-66% and holds there forever. It never renders even partially.

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Yes, I know. I have been working with HDV for some time. I am wondering why it doesn't render when it needs to.. the red and bright-green lines are above, and I've set the render settings such that ANYTHING I highlight and hit apple-R will render. But its not rendering at all.

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Conforming HDV Video

Hi All,
I have composed around 3 dvds from Final Cut pro over the last couple of months. I am having problem with rendering. Before it was not taking long, I must have changed something in the settings as now when rendering it is coming up with conforming hdv video... can anyone help how I can get back to rendering quicker?? thanks

plastique45 wrote:
100% wrong.
What you changed is the following:
Sequence>Render All> Full. Uncheck it and when you render, you'll no longer get that Conforming HDV Video message.
While DUCKY64 might have turned that setting on accidently, you do understand that this kind of guidance is of limited value for those who output to DVD, right?
As mentioned in the Final Cut Pro 6: Working With High Definition and Broadcast Formats manual, an HDV timeline must be conformed prior to output. That includes export to QT Movie, the most common way folks get HDV media to Compressor (or any other encoder) in order to create .m2v files.
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Conforming HDV video takes ages!

i shot some footage in hd 50i on my sony Z1 captured it all seems great - did the editing all fine (its a 3 min sequence), but now when i render it within the FCP timeline it seems to taking ages to "conforming HDV video" is this normal?
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I hadn't seen that Michael so I appreciate the heads up.
This HD-Connect MP2 unit looks to be a far more cost effective solution than the previous contender... up to now, for bi-directional conversion, I think the Canopus ADVCHDM1 has been pretty much our only option, though I had conveniently overlooked that when making my last post !
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I have an 80min HDV (720) project.
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When I hit "Print to video" It said "conforming" again. -- it took about an hour (not bad for 80min as it was already rendered) After an hour it took about 5 mins to render the audio.
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In no way is this an "I told you so". It's just never as simple as it should be, which is why I recommended printing ASAP. I'm not sure about the second conformation, is there a preference or setup option (there may not be) that automatically conforms the video prior to printing? If so, disable it.
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Based on a previous post, and in the interest of speeding up my print to video time, in the sequence menu in the nav bar in FCP I changed "something" that means that whenever I render my HDV video now, it says "conforming HDV video". This is now slowing down my editing time because I don't want to conform the video every time I render a clip. Any idea how to turn this "off" for the time being? Is this even possible?

When you select Sequence > Render All, that will Conform everything that gets rendered. If, instead, you first click to highlight the clips in the Timeline you want to render, and then select Sequence > Render Selection, FCP will only render, and will not conform.
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Thanks for your continued advice.
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