Conforming HDV Video

Hi All,
I have composed around 3 dvds from Final Cut pro over the last couple of months. I am having problem with rendering. Before it was not taking long, I must have changed something in the settings as now when rendering it is coming up with conforming hdv video... can anyone help how I can get back to rendering quicker?? thanks

plastique45 wrote:
100% wrong.
What you changed is the following:
Sequence>Render All> Full. Uncheck it and when you render, you'll no longer get that Conforming HDV Video message.
While DUCKY64 might have turned that setting on accidently, you do understand that this kind of guidance is of limited value for those who output to DVD, right?
As mentioned in the Final Cut Pro 6: Working With High Definition and Broadcast Formats manual, an HDV timeline must be conformed prior to output. That includes export to QT Movie, the most common way folks get HDV media to Compressor (or any other encoder) in order to create .m2v files.
Beside that, for all types of codecs, not just HDV, the (Dark Green) Full RT media must be rendered in order to be exported via the QT movie route. If you don't render it prior to export, of course, FCP performs the render during export. So, not a whole lot to be gained for folks making DVDs.
It wasn't fair to say that Andy was 100% wrong. And resurrecting what is, considering the traffic on this forum, essentially a dead thread to make that statement wasn't cool.

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Yes, I know. I have been working with HDV for some time. I am wondering why it doesn't render when it needs to.. the red and bright-green lines are above, and I've set the render settings such that ANYTHING I highlight and hit apple-R will render. But its not rendering at all.

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I hadn't seen that Michael so I appreciate the heads up.
This HD-Connect MP2 unit looks to be a far more cost effective solution than the previous contender... up to now, for bi-directional conversion, I think the Canopus ADVCHDM1 has been pretty much our only option, though I had conveniently overlooked that when making my last post !
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In no way is this an "I told you so". It's just never as simple as it should be, which is why I recommended printing ASAP. I'm not sure about the second conformation, is there a preference or setup option (there may not be) that automatically conforms the video prior to printing? If so, disable it.
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Chris Walsh1 wrote:
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