Confusion about Master data text

Hello all, I am little bit confused about the modelling concept in BI7. My confusion is about the Text table creation and its concepts.
I got a Flat File data in my PC .Here is the scenario:
Material Num, Material Name, Material Description
1111, Desk , Dining table
Material Name and Material Description are the Attributes of Materaial Number here. When i created Infoobjects Material Number , Material Name (Attribute). I can see that system created a Text table with Short descripton and Language key selected. I understand that i have to load master data and text separately. My question is How did that "short text exists" box got changed?
In my case "Material Description" is showing Text data "dining table" correct? do i have to create this material description Infoobject as an attributes of Material Num, and later on load this as Text data to it?
Could anyone tell me how Text data /table come in to play in this example? Under data/texts tab i see that "language dependent" and "short description" are checked. why "long text exist" and "med text" are not ticked? AFter clicking this T table i know its empty at this point, but is this table waiting for the data to be loaded from "Material Description" Field? if anyone could clarify this confusion i will really appreciat it..thanks
DK

Hi DK,
When you create a characteristic, by default 'With Master Data' & 'With Text' option would be checked.
We need to manually un-check this if the characteristic created by us is not master or doesn't have text.
Also, by default 'Short Text Exists' is checked. Short Text can hold description upto 20 chars,
Medium Text - 40 Chars & Long Text - 60 Chars. Depending on the length of the maximum possible length of description that could come from our source, we need to check the appropriate Texts.
And you need not create a separate InfoObject for 'MAterial Description'.
While loading the texts (using Text Transformation & DTP), you can map the Material Description to '0TXTSH' (InfoObject for Short Text).
Hope this helps!
Meera

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I'm facing the same problem right now (only getting EN). So maybe we can share some experience.
On help.sap.com I found the following link:
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