Connect Express to third-party router

I am considering buying an AirPort Express to use with AirTunes. But first I want to know if it would be possible to wirelessly connect the AirPort to my third-party 802.11g DSL router to use as a wireless bridge, or whatever it's called.

Not via the AX's Ethernet port.
With the AX's configured as a wireless client any client of the network (wireless or connected via Ethernet to the main base station) will be able to stream music to the AX and use a printer attached to the AX.

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Music from iPod to Airport Express via third party router?

If I get an Airport Express to stream music from an iPod Touch to a home audio receiver, does the stream travel through the existing home network or directly to the Airport Express?
If through the network, will the Airport Express work as a wi-fi access point for an existing wireless network?
I am trying to determine if the iPod must be in range of the Airport Express, or anywhere that has a wi-fi signal. Hope my question makes sense.

So the Airport Express will act as either a client or router, but never an access point for an existing network, correct?
Actually the AX can perform as a wireless access point with an existing network as well. A typical way to do this is to connect the AX by Ethernet to another router or Ethernet switch; reconfigure the AX as a bridge and to provide a wireless network.
Can you tell me if the Apple TV works like a client as well?
The Apple TV can ONLY operate as a wireless client. It does not provide its own wireless network and must be connected to another network either by wire or wireless.
iPod and Apple TV both connect to wi-fi router, and audio/video streams from iPod > router > Apple TV?
That is correct. The audio stream starts at the iTunes host device and ends up at an AirPlay-capable device. To get between the two, both devices must be connected to a network ... either by wire or wireless.

Connection timeout with third party router

Recently went to Apple store to fix wireless connection problem. Per their recommendation, reformatted and reloaded Snow Leopard (at their store) hoping to get my macbook reconnecting to wireless router (netgear). Have another macbook, itouch, ipad2, and pc that all connect to the same router, no problem. The problem MB connected at the Apple store no problem. Now that I am back home, this older MB continues to have the 'connection timeout' reading. Researched a ton on the internet. Found no solutions. Any suggestions?

It might help to reset the connection settings on your Mac using these steps one at a time until the problem is resolved, recognizing that, depending on your problem, not all of these steps will make sense:
1) Use the AirPort/Wi-Fi menu bar item to turn AirPort/Wi-Fi off, then on again.
2) Try to select your Wi-Fi network from the AirPort/Wi-Fi menu.
3) In the Network panel of System Preferences delete the AirPort/Wi-Fi item from the left column, then add it back.
4) In the same panel as (3), define a new location and see if you can make that work.
5) In the same panel, select the AirPort/Wi-Fi connection item, click the "Advanced" button, select the "TCP/IP" tab, then click "Renew DHCP Lease". Note that the fix this step implements may be temporary.
6) In the folder /Library/Preferences ( _not_ <yourhomefolder>/Library/Preferences), move the folder SystemConfiguration onto the Desktop, then restart your computer. See if you can now make your AirPort connection work.
These steps may not help, but they'll only take a couple of minutes to try. Before you try these, if you have any special network settings on your Mac for things like DSL credentials, note all your network settings, because the latter steps will destroy them. If you got all the way to the last step, if things don't work any worse than before, you can trash the saved SystemConfiguration folder.

HT1515 My internet 3rd party access point in in the basement and the speakers I want to stream music to wirelessly are upstairs. Does Airport Express need to be connected to my 3rd party router via ethernet cable or will it stream music wirelessly?

My internet 3rd party access point in in the basement and the speakers I want to stream music to wirelessly are upstairs. Does Airport Express need to be connected to my 3rd party router via ethernet cable or will it stream music wirelessly?

Wirelessly
Just select the option to make your AirPort Express join an existing network in the setup process

Connecting to third-party router, but unable to browse or e-mail

I am using an Airport Extreme card in my PowerBook G4 running firmware version 405.1 (3.90.34.0.p18). Our office Wi-Fi access is through a third-party router. We used to use MAC address filtering, and I had no problem accessing the network.
Recently, for reasons unclear to me, our IT director ditched the MAC address filtering in favor of the WPA-personal standard. I was able to enter the encryption key and get connected to the network, but I wasn't able to get my browser to access the internet, nor send or receive e-mail traffic.
Our IT folks temporarily disabled all security and restarted the wireless router, but I was still only able to connect to the router, and not use my browser or e-mail, so it doesn't seem to be a problem with the use of WPA per se. I tried temporarily turning off my own firewall, too, but the problem remained.
Oddly, I can open up the Terminal and Ping successfully to an outside address -- only http and e-mail traffic seems to be blocked. The Windows-based PCs seem to be able to connect to the wireless network and use their browsers to access the internet without any problem. Any thoughts as to what else I might try, or have the IT administrators try, to resolve the problem?
Thanks,
Sid

Hello kilgores. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
Something to ask your IT staff is if they use a proxy server for Internet access. If so, do they require proxy configuration scripts (.pac) to provide access to the Internet through your company's firewall. This information would normally be added to your browser's settings.
For Safari: Preferences... > Advanced > Proxies > Change Settings... > Automatic Proxy Configuration

Connecting a third party router to accompany actiontec router?

So I'm thinking about ordering a second router but I don't want to replace the actiontec router that Verizon supplied me, only because I don't have any clue what to do with my STB's so I'm going to leave the Actiontec specifically for that reason. I have the exact same setup with this exact router at my father's house and nothing seems to have gone wrong. Except that we hooked up an extra room specifically for the third party router. This time, I have nowhere for that to happen, so I was thinking about buying a moca bridge and plugging it in to an existing coaxial jack which another STB is plugged into. If I did this with the new router and simply gave only the one STB internet connection via Ethernet through the third party router, and left the rest on the actiontec, would it still work without messing anything up? Thank you.
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I'm not exactly clear what it is you want to accomplish, but if I understand correctly that you want to have an Ethernet connection for a single device in another part of your house, a part of the house where there's an existing coax feed, then a MoCA adapater should do the trick for you.
If indeed you're just trying to get that single Ethernet connection you won't need another router. You can plug the Ethernet device directly into the output of the MoCA adapter.
If you need more than one Ethernet connection after the MoCA adapter what you can use is a simple and inexpensive Ethernet switch. Again, you don't need another router.
The only case I can envision for needing a second router in your situaiton is if you want to use it to extend WiFi coverage, but just for Ethernet connection(s) a second router is not needed and may be counter productive.

Connecting the WAP to a Third Party Router

Is it possible to connect the wireless access point for the set top boxes behind a third party router?

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Is it possible to connect the wireless access point for the set top boxes behind a third party router?
Generally will say NO per ATT info. One user posted he got it working, he knew what he was doing. There are certain attributes that have to be on the router for it to work. 802.1p and IGMP snooping were needed on the 3rd party router.
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Configuration of third-party router

Hello,
I'm trying to configure a router in place of my BT Home Hub. I am pretty sure it has to be PPPoE because it's ethernet out the back of the Home Hub. I tried what was posted on these forums, I used [email protected] with 'bt' as the password. However, the PPPoE connection just times out.
One place I saw said I needed to configure a VLAN of 101. No luck with or without a VPN.
All I ever get is a timeout. If I plug the ethernet from the modem back into the BT Home Router, it works fine, so I know my line works.
Some of the settings I can change in the third party router are:
PPPoE Username
PPPoE Password
MTU/MRU
VLAN (yes/no) and VLAN ID
Encryption (yes/no)
Mac Address (default or I can enter one)
Do I need to power cycle the VDSL modem and leave it off for a period of time to get it it to forget the BT Home Hub? I did try power cycling for maybe 5-10 seconds but to no avail.
In the PPP log, all I ever see is PPP Timeout.
Anyone have any idea how to get this working?
Michael Grant
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Hi mgrant,
The information at the bottem of the article in in Keith_Beddoe's personal website may help. Link: Using your own router for Infinity
The MTU Size needs to be set as 1492
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HomeHub2 as Modem with Third Party Router, Securit...

okay i've configured my Homehub to be set as a Router and conencted a Belkin G Plus Mimo router as the third party router, connection and everything is fine but theres on problem...
security, there is no scurity protecting my wireless network which means everyone can access my network which is bad.
when i try accessing the third party router (belkin router) i'm forwarded to the BT home hub control panel page...
any help? i need protection on my wireless!
Kind Regards, Bert

Hi Bert,
What you will need to do is manually change your Network Adaptor to an address in the 192.168.2.2-255 range. Set the gateway to 192.168.2.1 and try and access your third party router again. Then enable the DHCP Server on the LAN interface of your Belkin router.
Don't forget that you have to be connecting through your Belkin router in order to use it properly like Computer - Belkin - Homehub, not Computer - Hub - Belkin otherwise it will just ignore the additional router (Belkin).
You will also need to add a Static Route on the Belkin and set the Destination network to 192.168.1.0/24 and set the gateway to 192.168.1.254 in order to access the internet and Homehub. This will need to be set on the WAN interface.
I hope this helps.
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Pairing AX with Third Party Router

Hi,
I try to set a network by connecting AX with thrid party WiFi router (to create a router network). I can not manage to pair it as I wish, but I am aware that not all Third party router are able to connect with Airports and WDS.
I try to pair with a Sitecom (WL-026)
Do someone knows about AX -3rd Party comaptibility?
Thanks
Yann

Since I'm not at home, I can't go into my AX config right now. However, is what you're suggesting quite easy (i.e., setting up my AX to connect to my NON-WDS supporting 3rd party P.O.C. router's network)?
I am currently doing it the brute force way: two separate networks, one (3rd party) connected to the world, one (AX) connected to the stereo. This is all well and good except that I have no internet connectivity when I'm using the stereo. OK... not so well and good.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Error while creating the proxy object to connect to a third party tool.

Hi,
I tried creating a proxy object with the wsdl file. I even created a HTTP connection to the third party tool. but when I try to execute the whole proxy object, I am getting the below error. Can anyone help me on this?
"Proxy-Generierung: Fehler aufgetreten"
"Incorrect value: Entity "<<document>>"(92 /3788 ). end tag 'ul' does not match begin tag 'p'"
Thanks & Regards,
Veerabhadra Rao A.

do a check on the wsdl file and how you are passing values in the proxy. The tags for XML are not correct. Open the WSDL in IE and see there must be an error. Or probably when passing the actual values to the XML generated each element is not closed properly. Error says tags dont match.
Edited by: Kshamatha Eda on Mar 5, 2010 10:54 AM

Is it possible to use a third party router with BT...

Hi all,
I currently have BT Infinity & Unlimited calls on my package, but I use a third party router, namely a Netgear WNR3500L in place of my original v2 Infinity Home Hub.
Now, my question is this: Do I have to use a Home Hub with Vision, or would I be okay using my current setup?
I do realise that if I use a third party router, I won't get support from BT.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

plainview wrote:
Hi, this has been brought up before on this forum;
http://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Vision/Best-non-BT-Router-for-BT-Vision-Use/td-p/243097
http://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Vision/using-another-router-with-bt-vision/td-p/7742
http://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Vision/Do-I-need-to-use-the-BT-Broadband-modem-with-BT-Vision/td-p/484...
Thanks for those links, plainview. Much appreciated. Have a shiney, new star!

Connecting to the Third Party Applicatin through Portal

Hi,
Does anyone know how do we connect to the Third Party Application through Portal? WHat technology EP uses to connect to the third party application and retrieve data from the system to display?
ALso if i have 2 application connected to the portal and if I retrieve one record from one application, then i want Portal to bring information related to that record from another application. In that case, do we have to maintain referential information about the records in both the applications, so that Portal will know which record id to pull from another application? How does it work?
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On the continuing saga of third party router problems......

I got an Apple TV which works great with my wireless Airport WDS, but then I was looking into any problems people could be having with it and ran into this:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=901401&tstart=0
Check the third party router problems where Airports worked great.
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Hi mgrant,
The information at the bottem of the article in in Keith_Beddoe's personal website may help. Link: Using your own router for Infinity
The MTU Size needs to be set as 1492
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Connect AE to third party wireless router

Hi all,
Here's what I'm trying to do:
I have a Airport Extreme base that I want to connect to a non Apple wireless router (ISP wireless router). Anybody managed to do that?
I tried setting up the base as WDS connnecting to my third party wireless router but without any success. I can make all the connections, save my AE settings, but when I choose the newly set AE Base, I'm not connected.
Help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
g

Most likely not, as very few non-AirPort routers can be extended with the AirPorts in a WDS. (ref: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php?title=WDSLinked_routernetwork)
You can, however, connect the AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBS) to most non-AirPort routers, via Ethernet, and then set up the AEBS as a bridge.

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