Connecting an old bondi blue 233 to an existing network

I already have a network set up with an indigo g3 imac wired with an ethernet cable which is currently running on 10.3 and an g4 ibook connected wirelessly running on 10.4.
I have recently acquired an old bondi blue 233 imac and want to connect it wirelessly as it will be located too far away from the dsl router to connect it with an ethernet cable. It's currently running on os 9.2.2 and does not have an airport card. I have heard that it is possible to link it to the network with either a usb wireless adapter, a bridge (whatever that is??!!) or possibly by using another dsl router.
I was hoping someone could explain what the difference is between each method, which one works best and whether any, or all, will be compatible with os 9. I apologise for my ignorance in advance.
Mac OS 9.2.x also running with os x 10.4 and 10.3 on the other models

Another option that no one has mentioned is using the mains power line.
There's a company called Devolo (German) and they make a collection of ethernet enabled mains plugs. One of my clients has bought a set to connect a PC in a room where the wireless will not reach and it works beautifully.
You plug one into a socket near the router, then connect it to the router with the supplied cat5 cable. Yopu then plug another into a socket near the destination computer and connect it to the computer's ethernet socket with the other cat5 cable they supply. You wait a moment or two while the 2 units synchronise and that's basically it. There's some encryption software supplied too if you want to use it.
The Register news site www.theregister.co.uk tested them out and compared them to a similar product by Zyx???? something. The Devolo ones performed better and were cheaper - but more importantly - outperformed Wireless G data-transfer speeds by a margin.
In a couple of weeks (when I've some spare cash), I'm going to get a pair and try them out for myself.
According to their website - they also do a plug with a built-in wireless access point.

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I've been all over the internet trying to understand the FBT workarounds for an old Rev A Imac and I apologize in advance if this is a redundant question.
I must admit I'm now a little confused. I think the problem with the computer is a bad FBT. When I press the power button, I get an amber light, chime, spin up and then a pop and it shuts down. When I connect an external apple monitor to it, it boots right up. Here's the kink-when I connect a PC VGA monitor through an adapter (I've tried two different adapters and three different monitors), the light stays amber and no chime. Finally, when I disconnect the external monitor and boot, with no monitor connected (just the adapter plugged into the back of the bondi) wait for the chime, and then connect the external monitor, all is well and it boots. I want to remove the motherboard and power supply from the case and just make a new case with an external monitor. Any suggestions on what this might be? Reset PRAM? Bad PRAM battery?No hope at all? The power button seems to remain amber the whole time. Should it turn green or some other color at some point?
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These forums have many more readers than posters. Some readers would be ready, willing and able to answer your question, but they may not be native speakers of English. When you use acronyms, like FBT, but do not define them, readers may have trouble understanding.
When I connect an external apple monitor to it, it boots right up.
Then it is working fine. The iMac power supply uses the Flyback transformer to generate various Voltages used to power Digital Logic inside the iMac. If the Flyback Transformer were not working, you would not get to the software-generated chime that indicates booting is likely.
when I connect a VGA monitor through an adapter (I've tried two different adapters and three different monitors), the light stays amber and no chime.
Then your adapters are not the right ones for that Mac. It is very common for the wrong adapter to cause no green light and no picture.
The adapters do two jobs:
1) they shuffle the signals around to the right pins so that you can get a picture on the display.
2) they provide a code on pins 4, 7, and 10 that tells the Mac what display is attached, thus limiting the resolutions that the Mac will allow. On later Macs they can tell the Mac to look for Digital Data Channel information from the Display.
Do you get a good boot up and a picture on the internal display if you boot from a System CD appropriate for that Mac? This test bypasses your Hard Drive and all the software on it, effectively cutting the problem into Hardware vs. Software.
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ctrl B makes the top bar (File. Edit. View. Controls. Store. Help.) appear and disappear.
ctrl S makes a side bar appear on the left side of iTunes. It shows the library which has Music. Movies. TV Shows. Apps. Playlists. Ect.
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Hi:
The kids pulled out my old Bondi Blue G3. I have reinstalled all the original discs and so it is running on 8.5 (not 8.6....I am having a hard time trying to figure out how to upgrade now to 8.6...I'll take suggestions on this issue too, unable to find what I need at apple support). But....
Anyway, some of the kiddie software needs system 9.x So I was going to buy the OS 9 discs on ebay. There is a lot there to chose from. I am not sure exactly what discs I need. Can I just buy a copy of 9.2 and that will work? Anything special I need to know? Simply want to get to the highest 9.xx as possible at least cost.
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Many kind thx!!
Jon

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The following Articles should be helpful:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=26165 Mac OS 8.5.1 Update Document and Software
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60335 Mac OS 8.6: Installing Mac OS 8.6
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60283 Mac OS 8.6 Update Document and Software
If you install OS 8.6 you must also install the following updates:
Font Manager Update
Drive Setup 1.7.3. Open it and use the UPDATE DISK DRIVER option. (Do NOT choose the Initialize option as that will erase your drive).
If your "Bondi Blue G3" is an iMac please see Knowledge Base Article before installing OS 9.x:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58174 iMac: When to Install Available Updates
Your iMac may be in need of a battery also.
Radio Shack's battery# is 23-026. It is a 3.6V Lithum 850mAh 1/2-AA battery made for Apple computers.
Mac 3.6 Volt Battery
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86181 Macintosh Family: Batteries and Part Numbers.
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Also, I would purchase as much RAM as you can afford. OS 9.x uses up a lot of memory. In the meantime I would set Virtual Memory to 97mb.
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Where ever you purchase OS 9.x from make sure you purchase a univeral full installer CD. Ask the vendors the color of the CD lable. All universal full install CDs are white w/an orange/golden 9.x on it.
You can purchase a OS 9.1 or OS 9.2.1 universal installer CD & then go to Apple's download site & download the OS 9.2.2 update. However, personally, I would just stay with OS 9.1 or OS 9.2.1. You really do not need OS 9.2.2 which is really a cosmetic OS for OS X.
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Prior to doing any of the above I would run a 3rd party utility (DiskWarrior, Techtool Pro or Norton Utilities v5.03) to make sure the system is in tip top shape & then run the utility again after all the installations plus rebuild your desktop.
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Upgrade a crt bondi blue

just need to know if it is feasible to upgrade a bondi blue 233 mhz from 9.1 to jaguar for my 9 yr old to hook up with school network and run educational software.

Hello,
It will work just fine if you update the necessary areas first.
The most important, is that you need to get firmware update 1.2 installed:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60384
You have to install that prior to installing any version of OS X. Failure to do so, could result in a system that is totally unusable.
On the page at:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58174
You'll also find updates for the CD-ROM drive and your modem that you should go ahead and update before upgrading.
They are not critical updates. But, they will make things better, and you won't be able to install those updates from OS X.
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Your machine will actually run any version of OS X all the way up to 10.3.9.
You do need to make sure you upgrade the memory and hard drive to meet the minimum requirements of the version of OS X that you choose.
128 MB is fine for OS 10.0 through 10.2.8. But, 256 MB or more would be recommended.
For OS 10.3.x, 256 MB would be minimum.
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Bridge does not work for wireless clients - connecting to existing network.

Hi - I really hope somebody can help out here, after hours of trial & error, I have finally given up
I need to connect my Airport Extreme Base Station to my existing network. I have a linksys router (192.168.15.1) connected to my modem and this linksys router acts as DHCP server too.
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If I use "bridge mode", then wired computers to the AEBS works fine - getting an IP from the linksys etc. BUT, the wireless clients will have a self-assigned IP and not get through to the internet. It's like the AEBS will not allow wireless clients to "get through" unless AEBS itself is handing out IP addresses.
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Maximum RAM for your machine is 512 with a 256MB module in each of the two slots. The bottom slot requires a low profile module. See here for what I mean...
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