Connecting AX to a quicksilver G4

My DSL modem is connected to a Linksys wireless
router. I want to be able to be wireless with my
Power Mac. Can I just simply connect the AX directly
to the quicksilver via the available Ethernet port?
Or do I absolutely need to equip the G4 with an
airport card (which is not available anymore for my
model).
You can use an AX in WDS Remote mode to a wired client. WDS works with Airport Extreme or Express acting as a WDS Main. Only one Linksys model can do WDS that I know of:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=607416&#607416
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107454

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Hi,
since i tried to connect my USB printer to the AEBS without succes and I intend to buy an NAS drive which I also like to connect to my AEBS I want to know BEFORE I by it, if there are specific NAS drives supported by AEBS and will work for sure or not.
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If this is meant to be a bug report, please file a bug report in the proper place. This is a user to user discussion forum.
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I am having problems printing wirelessly from an iBook G3.
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Does the older OS X version in use support bonjour (aka rendezvous)
and was this hoped-for configuration working together wirelessly?
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Perhaps some searching by appropriate words may find some
other discussions or user forums on this topic, here & elsewhere.
Good luck & happy computing!
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Hi,
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Connecting a G4 Quicksilver to wireless

I have just recently purchased an Airport Extreme Base Station. My G4 does not have wireless capability. My intent is to keep the G4 "hardwired" through the Base Station and have wireless capability for my kids' laptops when they visit as their laptops are equipped to be wireless. So far my attempts have failed in trying to connect successfully. I called Verizon (DSL provider) to no avail; their only suggestion is to shut off the the computer and disconnect all wires, for the wireless connection, for 8 hours.
Any suggestions? Also, does it matter if the phone line is connected to the Extreme Base Station or to the G4?

My intent is to keep the G4 "hardwired" through the Base Station and have wireless capability for my kids' laptops when they visit as their laptops are equipped to be wireless.
Based on these requirements, your network configuration, with the AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBS), should be something like the following:
DSL modem > (Ethernet cable) > [WAN port] AEBS [LAN port] > (Ethernet cable) > G4, AND
AEBS > (wireless) > wireless computers
I called Verizon (DSL provider) to no avail; their only suggestion is to shut off the the computer and disconnect all wires, for the wireless connection, for 8 hours.
Any suggestions?
Your DSL modem "remembers" the last device connected to it...in this case, your G4. In order for it to do the same for the AEBS, a power recycle is usually required (as Verizon tech support has advised)
A typical power recycle...
Modem/Router Power ReCycling
- Power-off the DSL modem & AEBS. (Wait at least 30 minutes. If possible, leave the modem off overnight.)
- Power-on the DSL modem; Wait at least 30 minutes.
- Power-on the AEBS; Wait at least 5 minutes.
...and the AEBS settings...
(Note: This assumes that your Verizon DSL service required PPPoE for connectivity)
Connect your computer directly (using an Ethernet cable) to the LAN port of the AEBS, and then, using the AirPort Admin Utility (found in \Applications\Utilities), check these settings:
AirPort tab
- Base Station Name: <whatever you wish or use the default>
- AirPort Network Name: <whatever you wish or use the default>
- Create a closed network (unchecked)
- Wireless Security: Not enabled
- Channel: Automatic
- Mode: 802.11b/g Compatible
Internet tab
- Connect Using: PPP over Ethernet (PPPoE)
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- Change password: <Verizon DSL account password>
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Network tab
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I tried a memory stick in the USB2 slot to make sure it worked, and the memory stick worked fine.
I tried my wife's iPod mini, and it had the same problem as my iPod: it would show up in system profiler, but not in Finder or iTunes.
My new iPod still works just fine (albeit slowly) on the USB1 port.
Anyone have any advice? Any hunches?
Could it matter that both our iPods are Windows format?

Apple does state that they do not support any USB 2
add-on card to use with an iPod
Really? I wonder where they say that. How disappointing. Alas, the combo you pointed to only uses the firewire for charging, not for syncing. I'd still be stuck with the slow USB.
Doing a little more looking on these forums, I found one that touches on this, but doesn't explicitly say whether an iPod will mount....
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HP Deskjet 3550 cannot print using Airport Extreme via USB connection on Windows 7 64 bits

Product Name and Number: HP Deskjet 3550 Inkjet Printer
Operating System installed: Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bits
Error message: None
Any changes made to your system before the issue occurred: Setting up HP printer using Airport Utility to add a new printer and installed Bonjour Print Wizard.
Problem: My printer is already set up using Airport Utility. When I print something, the printer doesn't do anything. Is there something I haven't done lately in order to get this printer working using my wifi router?
Suggestion #1: Are the print jobs getting stuck in the print queue? You can check this by clicking on the printer icon in your task tray by the clock.
Error Message #1: Yes, the print job got stuck in the print queue, but the moment, it disappeared from the print queue and the printer doesn't print at all. This is frustrating.
Suggestion #2: Does the printer work as expected if you connect it directly to the PC via USB?
Error Message #2: Yes, the printer works if I connect it directly to my PC via USB, but I don't understand why it wouldn't work with the wifi router, though.
Suggestion #3: This has to do with the way the router handles the connection to the printer. I found another thread, regarding this issue, and it has some information that may help resolve it.
http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Printer-Networking-and-Wireless/Print-Problem-Using -USB-Printer-on-Airp...
If that does not help, I would recommend posting on the Apple forums, as they may have more expertise with the router's abilities:
https://discussions.apple.com/community/wireless/airport
Error Message #3: After clicking on the first link that you posted, it was very helpful, but the printer couldn't print completely and somehow it would stop at the quarter of a paper. It looks incomplete when I took it out from my printer. It does that every time.

UPDATE!
Problem solved! So this is just a followup in case someone else ever stumbles into these boards with the same or similar problems as mine, that is, trying to run an HP Deskjet D1500 series printer [mine's a D1520] on an Airport Extreme wifi router's USB port as a network printer [with the Airport Extreme controlled by an ancient G4 PowerMac Quicksilver currently running OS X 10.4.11).
Although it probably SHOULDN'T matter, since this type of printer works fine with just the Tricolor cartridge as shipped when hooked up directly to a computer's USB port, on a hunch I got a black HP cartridge (that's a type 21, not type 22 as I had earlier said), slapped it in, tried a test page, and all's well. So, we can call off the technoid hounds. Everything running perfectly.
I hope this message in a bottle may help someone else out there some day soon who may be scratching his or her head with a similar stumper. And just to recap those important Windows printer settings, they are:
* [Printer Properties--> Ports--> Add New Port...] "Standard TCP/IP Port"
* [Configure Port] IP Address "10.0.1.1" and Port "9100"
Best of luck!
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Hi,
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My wife came home for luch and I needed to leave. I tried to stop the program, I couldn't. I tried to shut down the computer, it wouldn't. So, I unplugged the computer. Second mistake.
When I got home I couldn't turn the computer on. With some research I discovered how to reset the PMU. That did it.
Unfortunately, I still hadn't learned to not try to open one hard drive while running the other without selecting it as a startup item. As a result, late that night I tried a half dozen more times to open an application on the OS 9 (slave) hard drive while not understanding that I was running the master HD. All with the same result. It took 15 minutes to open ending with a text block about the "21 day trial period for IPNetSentry" having expired then total lock up. Then I restarted and repeated the same mistake. The only thing that stopped me was that it was 2:30 in the morning. Sounds pretty stupid now. I then tried to find all the threads of this IPNet Sentry and trash them.
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Here's what I have done to try to resolve the problem. I scrubbed both hard drives using the restore software, and I replaced the PRAM or back up battery. The apple hardware test disk passes everything.
One more big clue. When I was reloading the restore software on the master HD I got the messages "!Could not restore the restricted-segment image. Reading block 00174A440." and then "The restore failed. The volume 'MacIntosh HD' may be unusable." Another time the first text block was the same except the reading block was 002141B0. Major bummer. It took four or five tries before I get get all five of the restore disks to install.
In another forum I found someone else with a similar message and a responder said that the hard drive may have gotten scratched. His thinking was that in trying to open a big file (in this case, the application on the slave HD while running the master HD) that the memory got used up and spilled into virtual memory and somehow scratched the master HD.
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G4RAY,
So, it sounds like you are saying that the Ultra ATA-100 will work in my machine.
Yes, an Ultra ATA-100 or Ultra ATA-133 hard drive should work just fine, and your G4 does not have a 128GB size limitation so you can use any size you desire as long as you format the drive with OS X 10.2 or a later version of OS X Disk Utility. There's no real practical performance difference between using an ATA-100 versus ATA-133 drive with the drive bus on your Mac. One thing that does help drive performance, however, is the drive buffer size. Given the choice, get a drive with an 8MB buffer over one with a 2MB buffer. If you will be looking in the 300GB and larger range, some drives are available with a 16MB buffer.
A new drive typically comes with a new 80-wire, 40-pin, Ultra DMA ribbon cable; drive pin jumpers, and a set of mounting screws. I'd use the new cable and jumper the drives as master and slave. You should have no issues with new slave drive of any size, either. Also, with a two-drive setup on a single ribbon cable, it does not matter which drive is connected to the inline or end connector, as long as one is jumpered as master and the other as slave.
Crucial arguably produces the highest quality RAM, although it's pricey. I've been using RAM from OWC and Kingston without issue. Regardless of where you might decide to get more RAM, I'd suggest doing hardware additions in phases, rather than all at once. It gives one an opportunity to test the configuration before making the next addition; and if there's a problem, it's often much easier to pinpoint. I'd straighten out my drive issues, run the Mac for a couple of weeks, then order/install new RAM, for example.
BTW - If you do get a new drive(s) and need some help with drive pin settings, or perhaps might be looking for some tips on setting them up with a backup plan, there are plenty of folks here who can offer helpful advice.
Gary

How many screws are supposed to be install in a G4 Quicksilver 1GHz DP CPU?

Hi.
I got a new (used, lol) Quicksilver 1GHz DP which is having problems "using" the first RAM bank (DIMM 0/J21 - closest to the processor). When I first got the machine (in the mail, well protected), I did a quick internal inspection, making sure that everything was properly seated - it had two pieces of RAM (512MB each) installed in slots DIMM 1/J22 & DIMM 1/J23. I closed it and started up from the Apple Hardware Test CD for the QS 2002 and everything tested fine. It had no OS, so I booted it up, installed Tiger and then used it for a couple of hours making sure everything was okay. Now, I thought when I'd first opened it, that I'd added a third piece of 512MB into the empty first slot before doing the installation and such, but now I can't remember for sure. The piece I would have added would have been tested and true from my other Quicksilver 867MHz (but on a QS 2002 motherboard).
My plan was to clean the QS 1GHz DP machine out, re-seating the dual processor cpu with fresh thermal paste, replace the fans in it, then move everything (ie drives, video card, pci cards, etc) from my older QS into the new machine, after I'd made sure everything mechanically was running okay. So I basically completely took the "new" QS apart, cleaning out dust, etc including the Motherboard - took out the power supply and case fan cage, replacing the fans there, cleaned and re-seated the cpu using Diamond thermal paste - then put everything back together. I put back in the original drive I'd just installed Tiger onto and original video card, but with two pieces of the RAM (Hynix 512mb) that I'd been using in my other QS, and one of the pieces that was already in the machine (Micron 513mb). I reset the CUDA button, then booted it up and it started up fine, I fiddled around for a bit, opening things, then put it sleep for about twenty minutes (to test that also). When I came back and tried to wake it up, the monitor woke up as in, the power light on it turned green for a moment, then it went back to amber, with nothing on the screen. The power light on the QS was green and the fans were running - so after a bit I held down the power light to shut it down, opened it and rechecked the video card, etc to make sure everything was plugged in okay - then tried to power it up, zapping the PRAM - the start-up sound bonged four times, then when I released the keys, the power light went out and it shut down. I tried again starting it up and this I got 2 beeps & flashing lights, which I looked up on my laptop and it said "incompatible RAM". So I removed the piece that came with it which just happened to be in the first DIMM 0/J21 slot (the other two pieces I've been using with no problem for over a year), . Started up the machine and it started fine - no problems. Then I shut it down and installed the 3rd (tested & true) piece I've been using in the other QS - it started up and mounted to the desktop, so I ran some software, put it to sleep, etc. Thought I'd figured out the problem, and continued with the transfer of drives, etc. Started up the machine and the red light on the motherboard turn red, fans powered up, it sounded the "bong", then shut itself off. I took the piece of RAM out, put it back in and it'd start up fine, but after a short period of time, it would freeze or shut itself off. I then went off on an extensive period of testing everything piece by piece (short of removing the cpu and the motherboard again) but couldn't find anything I'd done wrong - even thought it was because I hadn't used the 2-pin internal power connector in the power supply, so I removed the PSU again, and hooked it up to the other Quicksilver and had no problems. I even re-ran the Hardware Test (with the bank empty) and got no errors.
What I have noticed is that it'd be okay for a period of time AFTER I'd re-seat RAM in the first bank (pressing it firmly back in) - and then when it'd shut itself off, I'd opened the side door and it'd turn itself on again - I'd move the door a little lower, it'd turn itself off - then as I moved the side door again, back on - as if there was a connection problem. I inspected that bank up close with a magnifying glass and can't find anything physically wrong with it - no pins out of place, or dirt. I don't think I misplaced any screws for the CPU, but when I was done, I did notice that there is a fifth hole on the dual processor board on the extreme right that aligns right above a motherboard screw (when facing the opened computer with the back ports on the far side from you) - and I had only 4 CPU screws at the end. So I'm wondering if there should be a support post and screw between the CPU and the Motherboard, giving "ground" to the fifth copper-ringed hole on the CPU - the lack of which which might be affecting the first RAM bank?? Below is a link to a picture of the dual processor card. I've looked around the internet but can't find a clear picture or indication of whether I've missed a cpu screw or not.
http://www.welovemacs.com/6612591r.html
I thought, before I took everything apart again, including the Motherboard and CPU, I'd find out if aa I needed was to add a support and screw to that fifth hole (which I do have access to) - if that would fix the problem. Or if that fifth screw is not needed, can you suggest something else I've missed - the fact that the machine turns itself on and off as I move the door is pretty weird. It's not the first time I've replaced a motherboard or cpu and I'm pretty careful and thorough, but... Sorry for the length of this and thanks greatly for your help.
Karbon
Note: After a lot of reading and research, I decided upon Noctua fans for the case and power supply, hooked up via adapters to the Molex power connectors, not to the original 2-pin connectors, as I found I got a much higher cfm airflow that way. Also, other than the shutting itself off, I've had no software problems such as kernal panics or such at all. I've been using it for the past couple of days with the first RAM bank with no problems at all - posting this on it now.

Thanks Jon for your response - at least I know I didn't misplace any parts while putting back together. I'm probably going to strip it down again though, it just doesn't make sense. I agree that they can be temperamental but my other QS which only has a 867mhz processor I put into a 2002 motherboard (the old board had issues, so I replaced it with the newer version) has really given no problems since I first assembled it all together almost 2 years ago. And although I haven't completely taken it apart again, I have used it to troubleshoot various pieces of RAM, video cards, etc without any problems. Yes, it's picky about what PCI card goes where, but would just having a different processor on a similar motherboard cause such a glitche? And actually the only glitche has been this RAM bank thing - which does come and go when I move the door, so I must have missed something else when assembling it.
After reading through a number of other posts, I shut down and did another PMU reset with a piece of known good RAM in the bank - but to no avail - it still sounded the bong as if it was going to start, then shut down. So I unplugged it and carefully copper-brushed out the bank and blew it out, then started up with a piece of RAM in the dissenting bank (but none in the middle bank), into Open Firmware doing a NVRAM reset according to the Apple document. I booted into the drive running Leopard, put it to sleep without any waking freeze, then rebooted into the Tiger hard drive which I normally prefer to work from (I don't really see the hype about Leopard - I don't find any benefits from using it - I find it picky and next to impossible to search files with, without a big drama and extra work). Anyway, that's where I am now - typing this - so far, so good, but it's worked okay for a short time before after re-seating the RAM in that bank - a sleep and a reboot will be the defining moment.
Thanks again.

How can I get a dial-up connection on the G4?

Hi,
This question is about a power mac G4 with a plate over the phone cord slot.
I picked this computer up used for my sister. It works great with my ethernet cable internet service, but my sister will have to use dial up. I'm trying to get it all ready before I give it to her. She's knows less about computers that I do, and I'm not that great.
So, I saw the modem/quicksilver thread below and did a search for others like it.
It seems that there's some way to get it working. Would someone help me with clear instructions. (I can follow instructions, and even do some original problem solving if I have a place to get started.) I don't have other computers to use parts from. Plus since the question was answered, I wasn't sure if anyone would see my questions if I put them there. I don't even know how to look inside the computer yet.
I have ordered updated software (Tiger, iLife 6) if that makes a difference.

Hi
the large green plate is the logic board. The largish perpendicular plate with the monitor port is the graphics card.
The silver box behind the phone port is the modem filter. You'd just have to remove the plate that prevents you inserting a phone connector. The black wire should emerge on the opposite side of the logic board and plug into the modem if it's present, just down from the hinge which connects the side panel to the computer. The modem card is much smaller than the graphics card and sits flat on the logic board (rather than perpendicular like the graphics card).
I guess an external modem is one option, so long as it's Mac compatible. In the past I've shyed away from them as being USB they need third party drivers (software) to work. There was a time when Apple would release an OS update and it would break existing drivers, so you'd have to wait for new ones to be released. In the case of a modem though, you wouldn't have internet access so you wouldn't be able to download the new ones if or when they became available. I guess the OS is more mature now though so perhaps it's less likely to happen and I see Apple even do their own USB modem these days for around $49 (from the online Apple store).
I hope this helps.

Connecting AX to a quicksilver G4

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