Connecting JPGs to RAW files

Recently I added CR2 and JPG files to a catalogue, but I sorted and renamed some of the JPGs so now I have CR2 files and JPGs that are no longer connected to each other. Normally I import both CR2 and JPGs at the same time, sort, then rename.
Needless to say I now have 2 copies of the same picture.
I've attached a JPG that shows the same image, but with differnet names for CR2 and JPG.
Is there a way of reconnecting a JPG to a RAW file?
Thanks.

John, I agree with you on the separation. I do however like to keep them for back up to CD. so the workflow is import all JPG & RAW, then sort, then back up just the JPGs to DVDs. (too many DVDs for RAW files), then the RAWs and LR file gets backed up to external HDD. So in the end I have the files on 2 media and locations for safe keep.
I guess the main thing now is to remove all unwanted images (JPGs) and I was trying to save myself the process of going through 2,000 odd images.

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Hi Guys,
Hoping someone out there will have the answer to this.
Just come back from a long trip with thousands of pics in RAW, I like to use Canon DPP to generate the JPGs quickly and to give me Canons interpretation on the RAW image. (Apparently same processing as in camera).
Once imported into Lightroom 3, I have set up to view the JPG and RAW files as one.
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2.) Which is edited?
I do not really want to fully develop all the pics in Lightroom as some of the standard shots have come out perfectly and at the same time I feel I need to be able to compare them.
Any help offered would be greatly appreciated.

1.) Which of the two is the visible one in Library mode? can one set the preference?
Raw only. The jpeg is sort of like sidecar. Cannot set a preference. The only setting you can change is to view them separately.
2.) Which is edited?
Raw only.
... and at the same time I feel I need to be able to compare them.
Lightroom's Canon-specific DNG profiles are developed to match Canon's picture styles (or whatever they are called). So, if you use, say, the Faithful Picture style in Camera, Lightroom's "Camera Faithful" profile will render your raws very close to DPP, if not identical. That's for default settings. However when you start adjusting, Lightroom's and DPP's processing may differ.
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Is it possible to ignore JPG files on import? I shoot raw + JPG and see no reason to keep the JPGs; I shoot JPG primarily as a backup (I back all the JPGs up online to my smugmug account then delete them before importing the raw files), but they're also occasionally handy if one wants to get a quick print in the field. I know that one can set a preference to "Treat JPEG Files Next to Raw Files As Separate Photos", but even then they still are imported.
As an example, say I have this scenario (not on DSLRS, but on pNs cameras, sometimes a JPG but not raw is captured - I suspect this has to do with how the buffer is filling) with these files on a memory card:
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IMG_0002.JPG
IMG_0003.JPG
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jim01403 wrote:
trshaner wrote:
For this typical example 98% of the image files are transferred while LR is building previews, which is exactly what I was suggesting be avoided.
No, I don't believe that's correct. As I said in my previous post, Lightroom's Import is a two-stage process.....first copy the files from the card, then when that is finished, render whatever previews have been requested.
AFAIK there is nothing unusual about my system, Lightroom has always imported in this two-stage way as far back as I can remember. Based on this I see no 'safety' benefit from copying files first outside Lightroom, then using an ADD import process. On the contrary, as this takes away the possibility of using the "Second Copy on Import" option, as well as having to manually setup import folders, I see nothing but downside from that approach.
Mea culpa, Jim is correct! I checked my Windows 7 system with LR4.2 and I monitored the 'Destination folder' during an import direct from memory card to hard drive. 'Copy and import' showed in the progress bar until all image files were visible using Windows Explorer in the 'Destination folder.' Only after all files had transferred did the progress bar change to ‘Render 1:1 Previews.’ I started using LR1.0 on a Pentium 3 single-core system with Windows XP 32 bit, which I think is when I made this observation. Regardless, it is clear that LR4.2 is using a two-step import process. Thanks Jim for being persistent!
It still begs the question why some people are experiencing very slow imports, damaged image files, and other related import problems from memory cards? My guess (and it's only a guess) is that they have 1) 'Rename Files,' 2) 'Automatically write changes into XMP,' or 3) 'Include Develop settings in metadata inside JPEG, TIFF and PSD files' checked in LR preferences. It would be a good idea for anyone experiencing import issues to try an import with these three (3) options unselected.
My apologies to the OP DBarman for going off topic. Hopefully the extra information and observations are helpful.

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Did you look in the Originals folders on each date?
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Hi there-
When the Canon S95 came out LR3 didnt recognize or import the RAW .cr2 files. When using the camera I would take photos in both RAW and JPG, use LR3 to import the JPGs and manually copy the .CR2s to a separate directory. I would then tag and otherwise work on the JPGs in my main photo directory in LR3, while the CR2s gathered dust in a different directory.
Now that LR3 does support .CR2, and I have a slow day, is there an easy way to replace all of those JPGs with the relevant RAW file? What happens to the current XMP data, as ideally with the exception of the file extension they will be named the same.
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Another way that will recover your develop settings too: Note: I've never tried this - may have missed something, but in case you're game..
1. Save all jpeg metadata using Ctrl/Cmd-S (saves develop settings too).
2. Use exiftool to extract all xmp from jpegs to xmp file making sure it will have the same base name as your CR2s.
The command is something like: exiftool -xmp -b my.jpg > my.xmp
3. Import the CR2s, or if already imported, do a 'Read Metadata'.
That will transfer all settings from jpegs to CR2 but will make them look unsharp and dull, due to differences in default settings for the two (and in-camera settings). Plus, camera profiles and white balance will not carry over, so you'll have to redo those manually. Also, you may have to set the tone curve to medium instead of linear - not sure about that one.
Then use DevAdjust to adjust the following settings relatively:
Sharpening +25
Sharpen Detail +25
Brightness +50
Contrast +25
Color NR 25 (can be set absolutely)
Then use CollectionPreseter to set luminance noise reduction based on ISO.
They should look about the same now, since all settings have the same weight, just different starting points, for everything except temperature and tint.
And you'll probably want to enable the profile based lens corrections for the CR2s.
Maybe use compare view to see how you did and fine tune...
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None of this is unusual, and I wouldn't worry about it at all.
I would advise against saving quality 12, it gives you very large files but rarely if ever does it result in a noticeable quality improvement over level 9 or 10, which are smaller.
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I am looking at converting a raw file (NEF or CRW) to a jpg to shrink the filesize. I then want to change attributes such as exposure and temperature in the jpg, saving the settings in the xmp and then associating the xmp file with the original raw file.
I seem to be able to rank the image, but if I change the exposure or temperature, it doesn't render in the raw image in the same way as the jpg.
Does anyone know if this is possible? I suspect that maybe it has to do with the different way colour are rendered between jpgs and raw files.

RawPlusJpeg might help.
Another option, if you don't want to use a plugin, is to do them one at a time using Lightroom's sync function.

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Environment:
LR 1.1
PC: Windows XP SP2, Dual Core 6600, 4GB RAM
Camera: Konica-Minolta 7D shooting RAW and JPG (CF card has 3 files for each frame, RAW, JPE, THM)
Although I Imported my RAW files with no problem, I discovered that the Import also copied the CF card's JPGs to the same folder as my RAW files on the hard drive. So I set out to figure out how to import RAW into LR without also downloading JPGs to my hard drive. I have not succeeded at that and have added a, Delete of the JPGs from my HD before synching Metadata step, to my workflow, but I DID find some truly weird behavior.
The File menu dropdown offers two ways to Import from the card.
1) Import Photos from device which goes directly to the Import dialog where I have preview ON.
2) Import photos from disk . . .which goes to a file display of the CF card for file selections before going to the Import dialog. (Required if you want JPG only)
Also, if I click on the Import button to the left of the tool bar I am given a dialog box to choose:
1) M\(Camera or Card Reader) or
2) Choose Files..
These correspond to the same options that the File menu offers.
My results:
If you want to Import only RAW files use the Device option.
If you want to Import only JPG where you have RAW on your CF card use the Disk option and only select JPGs(with or without the preference switch set).
If you want to Import both RAW and JPG use the Disk option with the Preference option ON and select both JPG and RAW files.
But, I assumed (my error) that I could, using the Disk option, mix and match JPG and RAW selections.
THEN the strange stuff . . .
If in the disk option with the preference switch set ON, I selected just RAW or both RAW & JPG files on the CF card in the file selection dialog, the Import dialog always showed BOTH RAW and JPG files in the preview. If then, in the Import dialog for any specific file, I selected a RAW or JPG but not both, selecting RAW Imported a JPG file and selecting JPG Imported a RAW file. No kidding.
I ran this test three times. I dont consider this a big problem because there is a way to get RAW only, JPG only and both when needed, but someone could look at the code before the next release. (Maybe the shell game goes away in Pirate mode.)
My biggest disappointment is I could not find a way to Import RAW without copying a second file to the same folder on my hard drive which I will need to delete later. Maybe, next release. (Please)
For the development team, I offer my thanks for your significant advancement of digital photography.
For those that get to the bottom of this post, remember Rule 5.
Bob McAnally

>Speaking of which, WHY would anyone want to import jpgs alongside raws in Lightroom? I can't see any reason, and they just take up disk space. Am I missing something?
I'm not as gifted at file editing as many of you are, and often the jpgs I get from Canon or Nikon are much nicer than the raws. Sometimes I am sufficiently pleased with the jpgs that I just toss the raws. Sometimes I want to play, and the jpgs give me a target to shoot for and try to surpass.
Only when I really blew the exposure, not too common anymore, do I really need the raws to save what should have been a really great shot.
I understand the arguement for raw files. I just haven't found that they are automatically better than the jpegs without a lot of tinkering.

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I did a project recently where I shot everything in RAW. I've edited a good bit of them and exported those 'versions'. Now I'd like to export all of the original unedited masters, but as JPG, not RAW files. How do I do that?

Taylor M wrote:
Please read my original post to understand why that is not 'problem solved.' I have made edits to the RAWs and exported them. Now I'd like to export all of the files from their original, unedited state, as JPGs.
William is actually pretty much right here. +There is no original unedited state.+ A RAW file is just a string of data that has to be interpreted somehow. There is no "right" or "wrong" way of interpreting it, only different ways of diverging from what you thought you saw when you took the picture.
Still, I understand what you mean. If you for example cropped a picture or made it black and white, you obviously do not want to show those changes to the customer in this case.
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Yeah. I've double checked this several times. When I used to import as DNGs, I would get the JPGs copied into the folder that I designated and, in LR, the name above the thumbnail would be something like "D80_0001.dng+JPEG." So, I know that whatever I was able to do then is broken now.
The only solution I can come up with is several (tedious) steps:
1 - Import NEFs as DNGs. This I can do by turning off the "Treat JPEG files next to raw files as separate photos" in the Prefs. When the Import box opens, it shows only the NEFs. Then I start importing.
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Please, can this be fixed. This has put a serious crimp into my workflow. You know what it's like to have to selectively choose JPGs from NEFs in a folder containing 900+ images!?

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I have not changed any filenames, so the JPEGs and raws have exactly the same filenames except for their extension. Is there any way in Aperture to associate them with each other, or automatically apply the metadata from the JPEGs to the raw files? An Automator action maybe?
Thanks for any assistance.

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So I would do a batch export of highest quality JPEGs
of all these master files, and import those into
iPhoto. I'd then rate, keyword, comment, and organize
the photos in iPhoto. If I ever wanted to go back and
make a 13x19-inch print, I'd use iPhoto to
find the file (via metadata such as keywords,
date, album, comments, etc.), then use that filename
to go back and find the original raw (or PSD) file
and print from that.
<...>
I did a fairly similar thing, as I think did a lot of people.
However, what if I want to bring my old images into
Aperture? I'll import the iPhoto library, and get the
benefit of all the metadata tagging (ratings,
keywords, etc.), but still have to go back to and
separately import the directories of original
raw files. But then the JPEGs and the raws are not
associated in any way.
I have not changed any filenames, so the JPEGs and
raws have exactly the same filenames except for their
extension. Is there any way in Aperture to associate
them with each other, or automatically apply the
metadata from the JPEGs to the raw files? An
Automator action maybe?
Well, I have an idea that might help...
Try importing both JPG and RAW files into the same project. Then view all the files in the project, and auto-stack... sicne the JPG and RAW files were taken together they should group, I am guessing in the same way for all of them (RAW on one side of the stack, JPG on the other).
Once you figure out which side is which in the stacks, use the Lift & Stamp tool to copy settings from each JPG into the RAW version. To make this quicker, select either the Lift or Stamp tool from the tool bar (I'd reccomend lift) and then hold down the Option key to change the tool into a stamp tool on the fly. Thus the process would be, click on a JPG to Lift, hold down option and click on the adjoining RAW to stamp. Repeat for each image, using the Project management view which is all thumbnails. Kind of manual but you should be able to finish quickly.
Good luck with the project.

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