Connecting os9 G3 to 10.3 G4

First I would like to thank everyone for the help on (help or I'm going pc) quick up date I had to erase HD and install osx 3 times before i got a clean install. Yea os9 was long gone. all i can say is +REPAIR PERMISSION+ and do it again. and wow that is how a mac is supposed to run! I also did a fresh install of os9 on my B/W g3 and it is running like a champ. So my question is can i connect my b/w G3 running os9 to my G4(apg) running 10.3 Do I need a crossover patch cable? how can I tell the difference I have 4 or more Ethernet cables lying around. Any tips on getting these two to talk?

Yes I would like to work on programs in os9 on the g3 then move file to G4 with osx. I connected the g3 & g4 with fire wire started the g4 and then the g3 holding down the T-key, nothing happened and I can't find target disk mode. should i be looking on the g3 or g4 any ideas.

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Hello,
I have a new Intel iMac. I want to partition my hard
drive, install OS9 and run the old system. I know I
can't use "classic" on 10.4.7 but I wonder if I could
simply install OS9 and reboot my computer.
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http://www.gibix.net/projects/sheepshaver/
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#1, I have an old version of Photoshop. I'll buy the
newest Photoshop someday but the latest version
wasn't made for Intel Macs and it is very expensive.
$600. I wonder if it runs slow on Intel Macs. Maybe I
should wait for the next version.
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photo printer $550.
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#3 I have a "Nikon Coolscan 4000" film Scanner
$1,300. This scanner is great in OS9 but the thing
never worked in OS10 and now that I have this Intel
iMac I downloaded the latest software update and the
thing still doesn’t work and if the computer sleeps
while the Nikon software is open it won't wake up and
I have to restart.
Can't really help you there.
To sum everything up, can I run OS9 on my Intel iMac?
I don't care if I have to work in OS9 then shut down
and restart to work in 10.4.7 Can this Intel iMac
understand OS9. If I try to restart using OS9 as the
startup disk will I damage the computer? Will I screw
things up and have to spend hours and days removing
files and correcting problems?
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But, I would not expect good results with it for your uses. And, it's legal status would be questionable since you need to copy a ROM file from another Mac to use it (which goes against Apple's license agreement).
I feel like this computer is a fresh clean new baby
and I'm afraid that if I start messing around with it
I'll regret it.
Just make sure you have a good backup of everything before you start experimenting.
I hope this helps.

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