Connecting time Capsule to Airport Exttreme problems
Hi. I run a small video post production facility and needed to connect my edit suite to my time capsule and internet. I wasn't able to run ethernet between the teo, so I bought an airport extreme to wirelessly bridge and extend the network. Although the network is working it is very slow and I can't get email on the edit suite computers (airport extreme) even though they will eventually connect to the internet. When I turn the airport extreme off the problems go away, but I have no connection. It leads me to believe that the two wireless routers are fighting wire each other . I must have not set them up correctly. Suggestions???
Graham Saywell
best coast post
halifax, nova scotia
CANADA
There are many ways to connect the two devices. It all depends on what you want to do!
For example, here are a few things that you might want to do:
Use the Airport Extreme at one end of the house and the Time Capsule at the other end of the house to extend the network and give you a stronger signal throughout the house.
Use the Airport Extreme to provide mostly 802.11b/g connections and the Time Capsule to provide only 802.11n connections using dual channels for even faster communications.
Use the Time Capsule to create a completely new and separate network.
And so on and so forth...
So, decide what you want to do and then we can determine how to setup the Time Capsule.
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What is the best way to set up my 6th Generation AirPort Extreme (A1521) to my cable modem as a wireless router and then connect my 3rd Generation Time Capsule (A1355) to my AirPort Extreme as a wireless extender? I live in a small 1 story house and I currently have the Airport Extreme connected to my cable modem in the living room and the Time Capsule plugged into the wall in my bedroom. I am able to wirelessly connect to the internet using the AirPort Extreme as my router and I can also do wireless back ups to my Time Capsule. My problem is that my connection seems to be really slow! My 1TB Time Capsule back up is only half way complete and it has been 3 days! My computer has been backing up all day and night for almost 72 hours and its still not even 75% complete. I have backed up to this Time Capsule in the past and it never took this long. I am thinking that when I set up my AirPort Extreme and Time Capsule using AirPort Utility I must have set it up incorrectly or something.
How do I set up my Airport Extreme and Time Capsule for the fastest possible internet speed and back up speed?
Thank you,AirPort Utility 5.6 works with AirPort Extreme 802.11g base stations.
It works with N version airports.
It will also show details of the AC model but cannot be used for the setup.. mostly.
I purposely got the new 6th Gen Airport Extreme so my internet connection would be a lot faster!
Your network will be much faster when you have AC client directly connected to the AE. Older client will go no faster.. but what is worse.. extend wireless is mixing new and old wireless standards.. guess what one wins.. OLD.. So when you extend wireless.. you have no improvement whatsoever. This whole post is about extending wireless.. so you cannot extend to older equipment and do any better.. maybe slightly better signal although from your comments that isn't happening either.
I would rather not have to use an ethernet at all with the TC and I don't know EOP adapters are!
If you do not use ethernet then you are going to be forced to accept slow speed.
EOP (ethernet over power). Also called homeplug in the US.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HomePlug
Provides a method of networking over power cabling that already exists in your house.
So what your saying is for the fastest internet speed and back up speed possible I should keep my Airport Extreme plugged into my Modem and keep my TC set up as a wireless extender? Then when I want to do back ups I should plug an ethernet cable from my TC to my MacBook Pro?
To spell this out.
A wireless link to an extended device will go very slowly.. if it is not direct.
So lets say you have a laptop sitting in the lounge.. Your connection goes.. Laptop- - - - - AE- - - - -TC.
That means two wireless links.. wireless has this nasty half duplex and single channel nature.. it can send or receive (Tx or Rx) but not at the same time.
Ethernet by contrast does both at once. It is full duplex.
Wireless can talk to one client at a time.. so if there are multiple items using wireless lets say 4 devices.. then your computer gets a 25% time slice. Since wireless cannot handle multiple simultaneous connections.
Ethernet by contrast can connect multiple computers to multiple destinations at the same time.. all transmitting and receiving at full speed.
When you put all this together.. there are a couple of rules for fast connection.
1. Use ethernet at all times. Where you cannot use ethernet use anything but wireless.. eg EOP (homeplug) at least to try and get rid of wireless.
2. Where you must use wireless use it sparingly and make sure it is never more than one hop.. ie never have an extend wireless (repeater is more usual term). Repeater will cause instant slowdown of 50% and maybe up to 75% just because it is so inefficient.
3. Fastest wireless is 5ghz but it has very short range.. you need to be up close and personal to get it working.
Apple routers however unless you do manual setup I suggest are set to connect to best signal strength not best speed. It will therefore use 2.4ghz at 25% less speed than 5ghz because it is 1db better signal.. this madness means you need to setup manually for the best setup. -
Airport Time Capsule 3 TB has problems staying up on!
Airport Time Capsule 3 TB has problems staying up on! It dies every few hours. The time capsule is connected to Xfinity modem. It is possible that there was not much internet activity. Is there a sleep mode, without wake up !?
Since there is no power on/off switch, I have to pull the power cord and push it back in.
What is going on?Is it the new AC model??
It is faulty .. return for replacement.. There is several people here with the issue.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5263183?tstart=0
Put your experience on the end of that thread.. as the more input the better.
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I'm a bit confused by conflicting advice given by my local Apple shop and my internet provider.
My cable modem is plugged into a Time Capsule which I use to access the net wirelessly almost all over the house. The one spot the wireless doesn't quite reach is (of course) where I now need my office and iMac to be.
I thought I could just plug in an Airport Express somewhere in the middle to extend the network's range but the guy at my local Apple shop said the Airport Express would need to be connected not just to power but to the Time Capsule, via a cable. That's fiddly and would involve cables running under the floor or along walls and ceilings, not something I can or really want to do. It's not really practical to try and move the cable connection point either.
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So I'm wondering which advice is correct? I've also read that the netgear product isn't all that easy to set up so I'd rather stick with. Apple if it will do what I want.
Thanks for any help out thereI thought I could just plug in an Airport Express somewhere in the middle to extend the network's range but the guy at my local Apple shop said the Airport Express would need to be connected not just to power but to the Time Capsule, via a cable.
I'm sure that the guy at the Apple shop means well, but he is not correct.
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I have checked that the firmware has been updated to 7.6.4 . Similalrly the Win8.1 machine has been loaded with the update specified in another discussion.Firstly how are you connecting to the TC.. wireless or ethernet?
Please open a command window and ping it.. ping by name and by IP address.
If ping succeeds at least by IP it should work.
In windows explorer type
\\10.0.1.1 (or whatever the TC ip is.. that is the default).
Having the airport utility for windows loaded can help the process. As it loads bonjour for windows.
7.6.4 firmware on the TC is useless. It works better on 7.6.1
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I have a regular 2.4 GHz WiFi router which i am using currently. The problem is there are too many WiFi users around me and it seems my WiFi keeps turning off due to interference. I have tried chaning channels but all in vain. Initially I thought it was a router issue but now I have turned off WiFi completely and using internet on ethernet cable and it has been working fine without any disconnection. So definitely it is the WiFi interference problem. I really want to use WiFi as i want the mobility. Do you think using a time capsule or Airport Express resolve this problem?It is troublesome. Use ethernet instead of wireless.
Reset the whole network to factory and start again.
Yosemite can see nothing that it does not setup itself it seems.
Factory reset universal
Power off the TC.. ie pull the power cord or power off at the wall.. wait 10sec.. hold in the reset button.. be gentle.. power on again still holding in reset.. and keep holding it in for another 10sec. You may need some help as it is hard to both hold in reset and apply power. It will show success by rapidly blinking the front led. Release the reset.. and wait a couple of min for the TC to reset and come back with factory settings. If the front LED doesn’t blink rapidly you missed it and simply try again. The reset is fairly fragile in these.. press it so you feel it just click and no more.. I have seen people bend the lever or even break it. I use a toothpick as tool.
N.B. None of your files on the hard disk of the TC are deleted.. this simply clears out the router settings of the TC. -
Extending a network with Time Capsule and AirPort Extreme (via Belkin powerline)
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I've seen many topics about extending wireless networks here, but none seems to resolve the issue I'm having. I currently have a setup where a DSL cable modem is connected to a Time Capsule and I need to extend this network to another room using an AirPort Extreme.
I live in a very old apartment in Brazil and the walls seem to block the signal from one room to another, hence the need to extend it. Since wireless signal is very weak between rooms, I bought a Belkin powerline AV500 so I could connect both Time Capsule and AirPort using the electrical power at home (just installing a regular Ethernet cable between rooms is not an option).
I started with the basics: configure the Time Capsule + DSL as a standalone network, and it works perfectly within it's range. Then I connected the Belking powerline, plugged a MacBook via Ethernet on the other end and still got very good results (actually better speed than expected). Used it for a while with streaming and other network intensive tasks to make sure it could sustain the connection.
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Attached the screenshots of both Time Capsule and AirPort Extreme configurations.
Thanks a lot,
-TM
AirPort Exteme:
Time Capsule:Hello JuliaApple. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
You have several ways to configure both base stations for what you are trying to do.
The simplest would be to configure the Time Capsule (TC) to "join" (AirPort Utility > Manual Setup > Wireless tab > Wireless Mode = Join a wireless network) your existing 802.11n AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBSn). In this type of configuration the TC would perform as any other wireless client and not perform as a router. It will; however, still allow for both backups and sharing USB devices attached to it. -
Airtune Over Ethernet with Time Capsule or Airport Extreme
Can the previous generation Time Capsule or Airport Extreme bridge an ethernet client to an Airtunes network?
Current Setup: I have an aluminum iMac wired to my Time Capsule; currently, I use the aluminum as a music server by connecting to several Airport Express clients over the the iMac's built-in Airport for Airtunes support.
Problem: I have 3-802.11g clients dragging my wifi network. I would like to dedicate the iMac's internal network to the g-clients so I don't have to use compatibility mode for my n-network. However, I will lose Airtunes speaker support when I use internet sharing over the built-in Airport. Airtunes does not appear to support the Time Capsule ethernet client.
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-AE 802.11g (Airtunes only)
-AE 802.11n (Airtunes and USB printer)
-1st gen Time Capsule (Internet gateway, "creating network" 802.11 g/n,
-iMac 8,1 (Music server via internal wifi, wired TC client)
-Macbook 4,1 (wifi client)
-iPhone
-Canon MP620 (USB to iMac, wifi to Macbook)Further to Bob's comments..
A Gen1 TC will be using marvel wireless chip and your 2008 and 2010 Macbook will use atheros and/or broadcom cards.. Just open your system profiler and look for info on the airport. We find the mixture of wireless chipsets especially older draft N and later N products can give very varied results.
The very fact you are linking at 270 and not 300mbps shows some reduction from theoretical max speed.. and really to get over 100mbps with any wireless you need perfect setup.. matched wireless chips etc.
Do a test uploading and downloading a file to the TC to see if the LAN speed is better than internet speed.
In reality I think you are doing especially well.. we see loads of people complaining about slow internet here who are getting less than 10% of the speed they get direct when routed through the TC. And on most occasions the limit in speed is not really going to affect what you do, as the real links to the internet are not that fast. -
Connect time capsule via ethernet to Mac for back-up only. Is it possible without internet connection ?
Hi Bob,
I'm not certain the post I sent was posted correctly, as I added it as a reply to a 3-year old thread. Since this is a recently-active thread, though not specific to the issue at hand, I thought I'd post again:
Three years ago you helped me set up a roaming wireless network in my home. It's been rock-steady and I'm forever grateful to you for the time and guidance you gave me. I'd now like to swap out my AirPort Extreme base station for a time capsule. As I understand it, I should be able to unplug the base station and replace it with the TC without problem, so long as I use all the same settings on my TC... network name, security protocol, password, etc. Given the complexity of my network, I thought I should check with you first for any advice you might have. I don't want to set up a new network or make any changes to the existing one-- with the exception of using the TC in place of the AE. I'm already using Time Machine for backups. As a refresher, my current setup has the AE as base station and 3 expresses hard-wired with Ethernet connections elsewhere in my home. I have a 4th express set up wirelessly to use with my stereo system at the front of the house. All AXs are 'n's and are set up, as per your instructions, in Bridge mode to extend the existing network. I'm running the most updated version of Mavericks on my MBPro. Any suggestions you might have will be, as always, very much appreciated! Sincerely, Phyllis Sommers -
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mickair wrote:
I have been experiencing some networking problems
Welcome to Apple's discussion groups.
I have the latest Time Capsule ("TC"), an old Airport Extreme Base Station ("AEBS") bought in 2007 and 2 Airport Expresses, one bought in 3 months ago ("AE-Alpha") and the other bought back in 2007 ("AE-Beta"). All of them have been updated with the latest firmware.
Based on those dates, the AirPort Extreme is probably flat (as opposed to dome-shaped), making it 802.11n-capable. The Newer AirPort Express is probably an 802.11n-capable model A1264, while the older one is probably a model A1084 or A1088.
I use {the TC's} DHCP function ... to avoid unauthorized use.
This a discussion for another thread, but that's not what DHCP is for.
The wireless setting for it is to participate as WDS Main, but after reading various posts, it seems WDS is a bad idea
With that older AirPort Express you're stuck with WDS unless you decide to replace it with a newer model.
The AEBS is currently setup as being a WDS Relay at the moment
Why a relay? That's only needed if there's another base station "beyond" it that is configured to depend on it.
Since the AEBS is connected to the TC via Ethernet, you should probably configure it as a "roaming network":
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2273124
{The AE-Alpha} connects fine as WDS remote at the moment
I don't have any experience with mixed WDS and non-WDS networks, but since it's 802.11n-capable, you may be able to configure it to "extend" the network of the TC rather than as WDS. Look for a setting on the TC to "Allow this network to be extended".
Physical location:
AEBS in one end, TC and AE-Alpha in the middle while AE-Beta on the other end.
A device such as "AE-Beta" that's supposed to extend a network shouldn't be "at the end" but should be half way between the central base station and the clients that need an extended network. -
Connecting Time Capsule with WildBlue Satellite Service
HELP! Please...
I am trying to set up Time Capsule to work with my satellite service, WildBlue, and I can't get it working properly.
Before WildBlue was installed, I connected my iMac and my wife's iMac (it's on Mac OS 10.5.0), one at a time, with Time Capsule directly via Ethernet and back-up each iMac.
WildBlue satellite service was installed yesterday and the installer had no idea how to hook everything up. It was his first install. I was able to connect the WildBlue modem via Ethernet directly to my wife's Mac and made it work. When I try to add the Time Capsule, that's where I run into problems.
I ran the Ethernet cable from the WildBlue modem to the Internet WAN port on Time Capsule and I could not get it to work at all via AirPort. I tried using AirPort Utility and System Preferences - Network and could not get anything to work. I then ran an Ethernet cable from one of the four Ethernet plugs on the back of Time Capsule to the Ethernet plug on the back of my wife's iMac and was able to connect to the internet and get email on her Mac. I tried to run Time Machine, but it can't find Time Capsule! The only way it seems that I can get her iMac to do anything is to either connect it directly to the modem without Time Capsule or run the Ethernet cable thru Time Capsule to the iMac and not be able to connect to Time Machine. I still could not connect my iMac (it's on Mac OS 10.5.4) via Airport no matter what I did.
Can someone help me so that I can get Time Capsule connected and working the way it should?
My understanding is that I should be able to connect Time Capsule to the WildBlue modem via Ethernet and then connect my wife's iMac directly to Time Capsule via Ethernet and still be able to run Time Machine to back-up her iMac. Her iMac and the WildBlue modem sit in the same room together and my iMac is on the other side of the house where I want to use AirPort to connect to Time Capsule so that I can back-up my iMac and have access to the internet. If this isn't the way it is going to work can someone explain it to me on how it should and how I should set everything up to work correctly?
Thank you in advance for any help you can provide me.
RodYou can, but devices connected to the D-Link switch will drop to a maximum of 100 Mbps speeds. The Time Capsule supports 1,000 Mbps or Gigabit speeds.
If you plan to transfer a lot of files using Ethernet, the numbers speak for themselves. -
Apple TV Inference with Time Capsule and Airport express?
I have recently bought an Apple TV 2, which seem to be working fine, however since installing it on my wireless network both my Time Capsule and Airport Express can't be found. Following some fault finding it seems that when I unplug the Apple TV I can reconfingure the TC and AE.
The TC and AE are configured to join my existing network....and have happy sat there for a few years.
I would really welcome any ideas.
Thanks
RWelcome to the discussions!
It sounds like you have the basic configuration covered correctly.
You might want to check some settings on the TC:
Wireless Mode would be create a wireless network
"Allow this network to be extended" should be checked
The AX should be set to "extend a wireless network"
The "allow wireless clients" box should be checked
In this configuration, the ethernet port on the AX is active so things should work.
A minor point...Although the TC is a dual band device, the AirPort Express is not. Can you make sure that that the Express is connecting to the "main" network on your TC? The "guest" network cannot be "extended".
If you place your laptop close to the Express and hold down the option key while you click on the AirPort icon, some connection information will be displayed. The MAC address of the device that the laptop is connecting to will be indicated. Make sure that that this is the MAC address of the AX, and not the TC.
Another note...If you have not changed the default "main" network, the radio mode is broadcasting 802.11n only at 5 GHz. These higher frequencies are absorbed by walls, ceilings and any obstructions much more quickly than 2.4 GHz signals. So, if you AX is some distance away, you may not be receiving a strong signal for the device at that location.
If you have a signal strength utility on your laptop (the "bars" at the top of the screen are not a very good indicator of actual signal strength), turn off the AX and take a reading to see what kind of signal the Express is receiving where it is located.
Please post back with your results. -
I have a modem from my cable company that provides WiFi as well as ethernet ports for internet TV and Sonos. But when I connect Time Capsule via an ethernet cable to the back of the modem I am unable to get it to work and I lose my wifi connection completely. I added Time Capsule to back up data and also to extend the reach of my wifi with an airport extreme hooked up by another computer.
Put the TC in bridge before you plug it in.. ie do the setup in isolation to the rest of the network..
I would also start a new wireless name on the TC so it is different to the cable router..
If you want to be exacting also set wireless channels so the cable router is set to say channel 1 and the TC set to 11 for 2.4ghz. Then plug it in.. you will have no trouble as the TC will get an ip address as part of the existing networking.. then extend the wireless using the extreme. -
I want to connect Time Capsule with Time Warner modem
How do you connect Time Capsule to a Time Warner modem? I am upgrading my Wi-Fi to AC and have a Motorola modem without AC, router and WiFi. I could just upgrade the Motorola modem, but I would like to use a Time Capsule. My connection to Time Warner usesd a splitter that goes to a DVR with the other end going to the Motorola modem by way of a coax connector.
Connect an Ethernet cable from one of the LAN <--> port on the Motorola modem/router to the WAN "O" port on the Time Capsule.
Power up the Time Capsule for a few minutes. At this point the amber light will be blinking slowly on the device.
On your Mac....
Open Macintosh HD > Applications > Utilities > AirPort Utility
Click on Other WiFi Devices
Click on Time Capsule
The utility will open up and take a minute to analyze the network, then display a window that looks like the screenshot below...except that you will see a Time Capsule on the screen.
Network Name......enter a simple name that you want to use as your wireless network name
Base Station Name....enter a simple name that you want to call the Time Capsule
Password.....enter a password that will be used for both the network and Time Capsule
Verify......verify the password
Cick Next
The utility will set up everything for you. When you see a green light on the Time Capsule, log on to the new wireless network that you have created and enter the password to connect. -
I am looking for a backup solution and I am consider a Time Capsule. Consider the following situation:
Mac Pro
Leopard
I have a few questions:
1. Can I connect the Time Capsule via ethernet and direct Time Machine to backup to the Time Capsule using ethernet?
2. If I do not use ethernet, can I use the USB port on the back of the Time Capsule to connect to my Mac Pro and use it with Time Capsule that way?
3. What hard drive manufacturer is used in the Time Capsule?
4. I understand the Time Capsule has built in WI-FI, but if I do not want to use WI-FI for back-up what are my other options if 1&2 do not work above to connect Time Capsule to my Mac Pro?
Thanks in advance,
MikeWelcome to the discussions!
+"1. Can I connect the Time Capsule via ethernet and direct Time Machine to backup to the Time Capsule using ethernet?"+
Certainly.
+"2. If I do not use ethernet, can I use the USB port on the back of the Time Capsule to connect to my Mac Pro and use it with Time Capsule that way?"+
No, this is not possible. The USB port will support compatible printers and an outboard USB drive.
+"3. What hard drive manufacturer is used in the Time Capsule?"+
Difficult to say. I'm sure Apple uses different suppliers. The only way to know is to open up the Time Capsule (voiding the warranty). The "Get Info" command may possibly supply some general information.
+"4. I understand the Time Capsule has built in WI-FI, but if I do not want to use WI-FI for back-up what are my other options if 1&2 do not work above to connect Time Capsule to my Mac Pro?"+
You can connect to the Time Capsule via ethernet or wireless. If you do not intend to use the wireless capability of the Time Capsule at all, you can turn off the wireless using AirPort Utility, the setup application that is used to configure the Time Capsule.
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